Im a Kimins survivor. I joined KK in Dec. 06. Straight from the start I wondered if the calories would put me in starvation mode? My fears were daily, weekly, monthly put to sleep by a Crooked gal named Heidi Diaz. She prompted us to gain our dieting energy by viewing the before/afters…read their stories…read HER story and FitDay. Susan (I) wasnt very smart….I believed her. I lost a great amount of weight, fairly easily too. I was becoming my own before/after. I dreamed of the day MY photos would be posted with the others, what a good day that would be. But in early April….after feeling tiny bouts of dizziness a few times, even falling once and injuring my arm….I went down for the count. My husband and I were at the computer, planning out next vacation when suddenly that little dizziness was BIG dizziness. I made it to the bathroom just in time before forcefully vomiting. I called to my husband who had to guide me to the couch as I couldnt walk a straight line. It was Easter eve so when he insisted we go to the ER, I told him I was certain it would pass. I didnt want to miss Easter! I laid on that couch til the middle of the night, retching every time I moved my head even a little bit. By 6 a.m. my husband decided Susan wasnt so smart and carried me to the car. Within 15 minutes of my ER admission, I was rapidly being set up to check for a stroke or a brain tumor. I was so sick and I simply couldnt believe this was happening. At NO time did I suspect the KK diet. I still feel so stupid. MRI’s, Neurologists, CAT scans, IV medication to try to stop the spinning. 5 days of laying on my side with a wet towel over my eyes, they finally got the vertigo under control enough that I could walk slowly. They did find my electrolytes were all out of whack and my liver enzymes a little elevated, eventually saying they thought it might be inner ear. On day 4 I could hold down the diabetic diet they were feeding me. I think that is how I started to feel better, EATING normally…again I was not tying 2 and 2 together. I went home, a little dizzy but able to manage. I wrote on several of the Kimkims forums, Egg White challenge, Shake experiment, over 40s mature chat, that I had been sick but was better now. At last I saw before I was banned, they were still there. From that day on, I simply couldnt get my body to re-start Kimkins. By entire body resisted. I felt like a failure. EACH day I re-started…lose a few pounds only to fall off again. I was humiliated. Finally in mid summer I quit the diet all together and that is the last time I felt a dizzy spell….I was starting to put it all together, Susan was getting smarter. I looked up the symptoms of Anorexia nervosa, or starvation mode. Oh my God. When this whole Kimkin scam hit the Internet…I went from shocked, to mad, to sad and back again. All i can say is I hope to God that crooked, lying, selfish Heidi woman is caught and this idiotic fake diet plan is shut down.
from “Smarter Susan“
Monday, December 17, 2007
Friday, November 30, 2007
Lily
My name’s Lily and I’ve been lurking on these threads since late June. I tried Kimkins myself then, and lost 30 pounds in about two months - which I thought was fantastic. And then, I couldn’t lose any more. Like many others, I kept dragging my calories down to the point where I’d eat nothing but a plain chicken breast for dinner and break down crying the next morning since my scale wouldn’t budge. My hair started to thin out, dizzyness was commonplace, but thankfully my husband convinced me to go back to high protein/high fat (I’ve had problems with EDs in my teens and early 20s - I’m 30 now).
At first glance, the diet seemed fantastic (especially with all of those supposed success stories) - even though I found Kimmer’s before and after pics more than suspect. I spent the early years of my career as a TV news reporter, and despite my own instincts - and the glaring evidence telling me otherwise - I chose to ignore them out of my own desperation to lose weight. And now I’ve severely compromised my health as a result.
I’m sure my story is like the countless other ones here, but I wanted to post because of something else with respect to the whole Heidi/Kimkins saga that kicks pretty close to home for me. Without a doubt, Heidi has a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having read through the threads here, I know that it’s been mentioned before - but I have to say she’s spot on. My mother was diagnosed with NPD years ago (which she says is just the opinion of a quack doctor who knows nothing - lol) and every element of this situation is a mirror of the behavior I’ve witnessed myself over the years.
I have to give much love and respect to all of you here for every effort made to reveal the truth - and stand by it - regardless of how hard it has been at times. You have a fan and an ally.
Hugs,Lily
from “Why the Fascination with Kimmer” #10
At first glance, the diet seemed fantastic (especially with all of those supposed success stories) - even though I found Kimmer’s before and after pics more than suspect. I spent the early years of my career as a TV news reporter, and despite my own instincts - and the glaring evidence telling me otherwise - I chose to ignore them out of my own desperation to lose weight. And now I’ve severely compromised my health as a result.
I’m sure my story is like the countless other ones here, but I wanted to post because of something else with respect to the whole Heidi/Kimkins saga that kicks pretty close to home for me. Without a doubt, Heidi has a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having read through the threads here, I know that it’s been mentioned before - but I have to say she’s spot on. My mother was diagnosed with NPD years ago (which she says is just the opinion of a quack doctor who knows nothing - lol) and every element of this situation is a mirror of the behavior I’ve witnessed myself over the years.
I have to give much love and respect to all of you here for every effort made to reveal the truth - and stand by it - regardless of how hard it has been at times. You have a fan and an ally.
Hugs,Lily
from “Why the Fascination with Kimmer” #10
Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Important Lawsuit Information
In light of Kimmer’s recent admission that she is Heidi Diaz on the Kimkins website, I felt it would be a good time to reiterate that which I have said for a long time.
Join the lawsuit.
The more numbers behind us, the stronger we are. We are still in need of class reps and every voice against this fraud counts.
Heidi has offered a refund to people who follow certain procedures on her website for the next three days.
Reject that offer.
It is time for Heidi to stand up in a court of law and for the honest truth to come out.
If you have requested a refund, when you receive it, send it back and join the lawsuit.
Heidi will only truly come to justice in a court of law.
To join, simply send your name, address, day and evening phone number, approximate join date and amount paid to Kimkins.com to kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com.
from Kimkinlawsuit’s weblog
Join the lawsuit.
The more numbers behind us, the stronger we are. We are still in need of class reps and every voice against this fraud counts.
Heidi has offered a refund to people who follow certain procedures on her website for the next three days.
Reject that offer.
It is time for Heidi to stand up in a court of law and for the honest truth to come out.
If you have requested a refund, when you receive it, send it back and join the lawsuit.
Heidi will only truly come to justice in a court of law.
To join, simply send your name, address, day and evening phone number, approximate join date and amount paid to Kimkins.com to kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com.
from Kimkinlawsuit’s weblog
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Mayberryfan
Based on completely false advertising, I chose to go on the Kimkins diet plan in June. My online food journal is evidence that I stuck to the plan as written, believing that it was a healthy and sensible form of weightloss based on the claims of the plan’s creator “Kimmer” or Heidi K. Diaz, who are in fact the same person. While I did lose weight, I also began to experience significant hair loss, nausea, bouts of dizziness and was freezing all the time. As a normally hot-natured person, I began researching the source of my coldness and discovered that such crash diets can lower thyroid function to dangerously low levels bringing about the cold feeling and hair loss. Doing more research, I discovered that Ms. Diaz has no medical backing for her diet plan, did not lose weight as she claimed and has faked many of the “success stories” that she uses on the Kimkins website to sell memberships. At the very best, this plan is a fraud and at worst, is downright dangerous to one’s health. She has no business selling a diet plan that will definitely harm a person’s health if they stick with it long enough.
from Better Business Bureau Kimkins reviews
from Better Business Bureau Kimkins reviews
RW
There is no denying that you’ll lose weight on Kimkins. But then again, it’s because you are depriving yourself of essential nutrients due to the severe restrictions of the diet. Kimkins dieters have complained of hair loss, nausea and in my case, chronic constipation that didn’t resolve until I stopped the diet altogether and added more fiber into my diet. Kimmer (the founder) advocates taking laxatives daily, something I and most physicians do not agree with. Now, it has recently been revealed through a private detective and KTLA that Kimmer never lost the 198 lbs she claimed to have lost and she’s even fatter than her “before” picture. Even worse, many of her success story profiles have been fakes, using pictures from different Russian mail order bride websites. If you want to lose weight, there are better low carb alternatives out there, founded by legitimate physicians and nutritionist. Kimmer is neither of these. She is nothing but a fraud!
from Better Business Bureau Customer Reviews
from Better Business Bureau Customer Reviews
Sparky's Girl
Many of you know that I am a member of Kimkins and tried the plan with great success for a few months. I’ve tried to be honest and open about my experiences with Kimkins in this blog. In the past my stance on this has been that of someone with an open mind and trusting heart. I sought knowledge. I openly proclaimed that I did not know if it was a healthy plan or not. I recommended that those considering the plan look into all the details they can find. It was working for me and I felt fine while doing it. I even added an affiliate link after giving it a trial run.
Then I read some information that was very disturbing about Kimmer’s business ethics. Funny how that seemed to be the “red flag” for me. But somehow it made me wonder if things truly were not as they seemed. I can deal with a lot of things, but being lied to is not one of them. No one likes to be deceived, and the thought that Kimmer might be misleading people was nagging at the back of my brain.
I started reading everything I could find on both sides of the issue. What I found was, quite frankly, sad. People on both sides of the battle lines were hurling insults and accusations quicker than you could blink. It made me sick. I don’t believe in handling problems by creating more problems. It’s not an effective strategy. But I was quickly finding that something was indeed wrong in the Kimkins camp.
After much thought and prayer I decided to pull my kimkins affiliate and endorsements. At the time I wasn’t sure where it would lead. I thought if things calmed down and Kimkins was validated, then I would replace the ads and all would be well. That was never to be.
I want to take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who bought a membership through my affiliate links. I know there were 4 of you. Yes. I’m admitting that I sold 4 memberships, which totaled a profit of $60 for me. I basically got my membership back, plus $30 (memberships were only $30 when I joined). I wish I could refund all of your money.. or at least the part I received. Sadly, I’m not in a position financially to do so, even though it’s “only” $60. On top of that there is this issue of honesty. I could ask those of you who joined to contact me, etc., etc., but then I’d be asking for scammers and liars out the wazoo. So sadly you’ll have to settle for my sincere apology. And I truly hope you will accept it. I pray that you got something from your membership that was worth the money to you. Again I’m sorry. I had no intention of misleading anyone. I myself was mislead. I hope you will feel you can trust me in the future. I made this statement to a good friend recently regarding this whole thing: “You can bet I’ll be looking into anything I plan on recommending with a fine tooth comb and a magnifying glass.”
As of late, more and more has been surfacing about this situation. The most interesting information is coming from people who, until recently, worked very closely with Kimmer. What I’ve read from these brave people, who have put themselves out there to stand for truth, despite the abuse and scrutiny they may receive, is just what I feared. Kimmer appears to be deceiving many. It also appears she could care less who it hurts. I hate to even type that. I’m the kind of person who loves other people and wants to believe the best of them. I tried to with Kimmer, but have found I can no longer do so.
In the posts I will link to a bit later on, you will find copies of emails exchanged, pictures taken, and comments made that display the smoke and mirrors that is called kimkins. And before you go off on me about how the diet is still OK and who cares who Kimmer really is, let me say that the diet is not OK. I can tell you from personal experience. Here is my explanation on this:
I started the diet very skeptical. Some of you may remember my posts telling how I was going to give it a shot, but seriously doubted I could continue with the plan. It just sounded hard. I managed to stick with it long enough for ketosis to kick in. then something amazing happened. It suddenly seemed very easy. I was breezing through each day hardly giving a thought to eating at all. I broke my stall and started losing very quickly. I was so excited! But something changed. Now physically I felt fine. I wasn’t having any health issues and I thought all was well. But in my mind something was changing. I didn’t see it as clearly then as I do now. To be honest, I didn’t realize it was as serious as it was until just a couple of days ago. That’s when I decided I needed to tell my story. But my way of thinking was changing. I was starting to obsess over every bite I took. Now if you are like me, you are saying “So what? We all do that sometimes!” And that’s exactly what I kept telling myself. I was sure it was just me and my obsessive personality. I’m an all-or-nothing kind of person so I felt positive it was just issues I was having and not something related to the diet. I started having concerns about my calories being too low and decided to up them a bit to be sure I was eating healthy. But I found that It took tremendous effort to eat more. I didn’t want to. I didn’t want to stop the quick weight loss.. or even slow it down. My way of thinking had changed so drastically that I was no longer as concerned about my health as I should have been. Thankfully I realized I couldn’t continue on this way and went back to a more Atkins-like plan.
A few days ago I was reading some comments from others who were once on Kimkins. They were experiencing the same thoughts I was. They had the same feelings I did. Some were afraid to eat anything! Those similar experiences caused something to click in my mind. I realized I could have easily developed an eating disorder. I was on the verge. I was so obsessed with losing weight quickly, that only having 3 protein shakes a day, which totaled 330 calories, actually seemed acceptable. I would have laughed in the past had you EVER told me I’d feel that way.
Now can I blame this way of thinking on the diet? I don’t know. I do think it’s possible. It’s not something I have ever even considered before, even when I was losing well on Atkins. So why this mentality now? Why when I was trying Kimkins. All I can say is there COULD be a link. And it’s a big enough could that I’m making sure the rest of you know about it.
I have not experienced health issues as some have, but then I was only on Kimkins for a short time. There are many, including some popular faces of Kimkins, that have confessed to losing hair, having energy issues, etc.
Here are the aforementioned links. Read them and decide for yourself. It might interest you to know that many people who bought lifetime memberships no longer seem to have access to kimkins.com. It seems that if they asked questions or made honest suggestions for nipping all this conflict in the bud, they were quickly squelched. I guess they are considered trouble makers. I don’t want to stir up trouble, but I do want to know the truth, as do so many others. I may be the next person to lose my membership access.. we shall see.
Check out Becky’s (littlebit’s) blog, who was a very public face for the kimkins forums. There are several posts here that will enlighten you to the workings of Kimmer’s mind, at least in relation to how she felt about the concerns at hand.
Here is Deni’s blog, who was one of the success stories in the Woman’s World write up. Again, it’s interesting to see her point of view. Considering she was a kimkins celebrity, why would she suddenly turn away from it all unless she had valid reasons?
Then we have Christin, who was the Woman’s World cover girl for that story. Again, why would she leave unless there were serious issues behind the scenes?Then we have a series of very disturbing posts by a man who claims to be the husband of Kimmer’s ex business partner. In his blog he reveals not only shady business dealings, but recent photos of Heidi Diaz, who is supposed to be Kimmer. Kimmer claims she is not Heidi and that she feels sorry for Heidi because she is being stalked by this PI. But my question is this. If Kimmer isn’t Heidi, then why did she let Women’s World magazine tell everyone she was? The famous “red dress” picture is in the magazine, along with the blue and white floral before picture. The magazine credits Heidi Diaz, otherwise known as Kimmer, as the creator of the diet and the person in the two photos. If Kimmer were an honest person, and these were not photos of her, wouldn’t she have stepped forward and said so? But now she claims that she is NOT Heidi Diaz, and seems to be bragging that no one knows WHO she really is (See Becky’s blog above). Does that sound like the comments of an honest person to you? Me thinks not.
I could add many more links here about the effects of very low calorie dieting, Kimmer’s advising people to use laxatives, etc., etc. But I think I’m done. You can find these on any of the many other blogs and web sites out there that are dedicated to bringing to light the truth. I just wanted to share my view point on this. While I’m not in the Kimmmer hating camp, because it’s not the way I believe or operate, I am very disappointed in her and her so-called healthy plan.
If you are doing the Kimkins diet, I wish you health and happiness. I’m not going to beat you up because you are. I feel I did learn some things about myself during this experience that have been helpful to me, so I can’t completely write it all off. But I don’t think the positives outweigh the negatives here. So please be careful and watch the signals your body is giving you. If you are concerned about anything at all, please go see a doctor and tell him/her of your diet plan.
So these are my feelings on the matter. I know I have opened myself up for abuse by posting this, but my hopes are that if you disagree with me, you can do so civilly. And I hope this post will give others the courage to tell their story and do an honest evaluation of their health. Weight loss is great, but the old saying is true.. “If you don’t have your health, you don’t have anything.”
God bless you all.
from “Kimkins–How I feel about it now”
Then I read some information that was very disturbing about Kimmer’s business ethics. Funny how that seemed to be the “red flag” for me. But somehow it made me wonder if things truly were not as they seemed. I can deal with a lot of things, but being lied to is not one of them. No one likes to be deceived, and the thought that Kimmer might be misleading people was nagging at the back of my brain.
I started reading everything I could find on both sides of the issue. What I found was, quite frankly, sad. People on both sides of the battle lines were hurling insults and accusations quicker than you could blink. It made me sick. I don’t believe in handling problems by creating more problems. It’s not an effective strategy. But I was quickly finding that something was indeed wrong in the Kimkins camp.
After much thought and prayer I decided to pull my kimkins affiliate and endorsements. At the time I wasn’t sure where it would lead. I thought if things calmed down and Kimkins was validated, then I would replace the ads and all would be well. That was never to be.
I want to take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who bought a membership through my affiliate links. I know there were 4 of you. Yes. I’m admitting that I sold 4 memberships, which totaled a profit of $60 for me. I basically got my membership back, plus $30 (memberships were only $30 when I joined). I wish I could refund all of your money.. or at least the part I received. Sadly, I’m not in a position financially to do so, even though it’s “only” $60. On top of that there is this issue of honesty. I could ask those of you who joined to contact me, etc., etc., but then I’d be asking for scammers and liars out the wazoo. So sadly you’ll have to settle for my sincere apology. And I truly hope you will accept it. I pray that you got something from your membership that was worth the money to you. Again I’m sorry. I had no intention of misleading anyone. I myself was mislead. I hope you will feel you can trust me in the future. I made this statement to a good friend recently regarding this whole thing: “You can bet I’ll be looking into anything I plan on recommending with a fine tooth comb and a magnifying glass.”
As of late, more and more has been surfacing about this situation. The most interesting information is coming from people who, until recently, worked very closely with Kimmer. What I’ve read from these brave people, who have put themselves out there to stand for truth, despite the abuse and scrutiny they may receive, is just what I feared. Kimmer appears to be deceiving many. It also appears she could care less who it hurts. I hate to even type that. I’m the kind of person who loves other people and wants to believe the best of them. I tried to with Kimmer, but have found I can no longer do so.
In the posts I will link to a bit later on, you will find copies of emails exchanged, pictures taken, and comments made that display the smoke and mirrors that is called kimkins. And before you go off on me about how the diet is still OK and who cares who Kimmer really is, let me say that the diet is not OK. I can tell you from personal experience. Here is my explanation on this:
I started the diet very skeptical. Some of you may remember my posts telling how I was going to give it a shot, but seriously doubted I could continue with the plan. It just sounded hard. I managed to stick with it long enough for ketosis to kick in. then something amazing happened. It suddenly seemed very easy. I was breezing through each day hardly giving a thought to eating at all. I broke my stall and started losing very quickly. I was so excited! But something changed. Now physically I felt fine. I wasn’t having any health issues and I thought all was well. But in my mind something was changing. I didn’t see it as clearly then as I do now. To be honest, I didn’t realize it was as serious as it was until just a couple of days ago. That’s when I decided I needed to tell my story. But my way of thinking was changing. I was starting to obsess over every bite I took. Now if you are like me, you are saying “So what? We all do that sometimes!” And that’s exactly what I kept telling myself. I was sure it was just me and my obsessive personality. I’m an all-or-nothing kind of person so I felt positive it was just issues I was having and not something related to the diet. I started having concerns about my calories being too low and decided to up them a bit to be sure I was eating healthy. But I found that It took tremendous effort to eat more. I didn’t want to. I didn’t want to stop the quick weight loss.. or even slow it down. My way of thinking had changed so drastically that I was no longer as concerned about my health as I should have been. Thankfully I realized I couldn’t continue on this way and went back to a more Atkins-like plan.
A few days ago I was reading some comments from others who were once on Kimkins. They were experiencing the same thoughts I was. They had the same feelings I did. Some were afraid to eat anything! Those similar experiences caused something to click in my mind. I realized I could have easily developed an eating disorder. I was on the verge. I was so obsessed with losing weight quickly, that only having 3 protein shakes a day, which totaled 330 calories, actually seemed acceptable. I would have laughed in the past had you EVER told me I’d feel that way.
Now can I blame this way of thinking on the diet? I don’t know. I do think it’s possible. It’s not something I have ever even considered before, even when I was losing well on Atkins. So why this mentality now? Why when I was trying Kimkins. All I can say is there COULD be a link. And it’s a big enough could that I’m making sure the rest of you know about it.
I have not experienced health issues as some have, but then I was only on Kimkins for a short time. There are many, including some popular faces of Kimkins, that have confessed to losing hair, having energy issues, etc.
Here are the aforementioned links. Read them and decide for yourself. It might interest you to know that many people who bought lifetime memberships no longer seem to have access to kimkins.com. It seems that if they asked questions or made honest suggestions for nipping all this conflict in the bud, they were quickly squelched. I guess they are considered trouble makers. I don’t want to stir up trouble, but I do want to know the truth, as do so many others. I may be the next person to lose my membership access.. we shall see.
Check out Becky’s (littlebit’s) blog, who was a very public face for the kimkins forums. There are several posts here that will enlighten you to the workings of Kimmer’s mind, at least in relation to how she felt about the concerns at hand.
Here is Deni’s blog, who was one of the success stories in the Woman’s World write up. Again, it’s interesting to see her point of view. Considering she was a kimkins celebrity, why would she suddenly turn away from it all unless she had valid reasons?
Then we have Christin, who was the Woman’s World cover girl for that story. Again, why would she leave unless there were serious issues behind the scenes?Then we have a series of very disturbing posts by a man who claims to be the husband of Kimmer’s ex business partner. In his blog he reveals not only shady business dealings, but recent photos of Heidi Diaz, who is supposed to be Kimmer. Kimmer claims she is not Heidi and that she feels sorry for Heidi because she is being stalked by this PI. But my question is this. If Kimmer isn’t Heidi, then why did she let Women’s World magazine tell everyone she was? The famous “red dress” picture is in the magazine, along with the blue and white floral before picture. The magazine credits Heidi Diaz, otherwise known as Kimmer, as the creator of the diet and the person in the two photos. If Kimmer were an honest person, and these were not photos of her, wouldn’t she have stepped forward and said so? But now she claims that she is NOT Heidi Diaz, and seems to be bragging that no one knows WHO she really is (See Becky’s blog above). Does that sound like the comments of an honest person to you? Me thinks not.
I could add many more links here about the effects of very low calorie dieting, Kimmer’s advising people to use laxatives, etc., etc. But I think I’m done. You can find these on any of the many other blogs and web sites out there that are dedicated to bringing to light the truth. I just wanted to share my view point on this. While I’m not in the Kimmmer hating camp, because it’s not the way I believe or operate, I am very disappointed in her and her so-called healthy plan.
If you are doing the Kimkins diet, I wish you health and happiness. I’m not going to beat you up because you are. I feel I did learn some things about myself during this experience that have been helpful to me, so I can’t completely write it all off. But I don’t think the positives outweigh the negatives here. So please be careful and watch the signals your body is giving you. If you are concerned about anything at all, please go see a doctor and tell him/her of your diet plan.
So these are my feelings on the matter. I know I have opened myself up for abuse by posting this, but my hopes are that if you disagree with me, you can do so civilly. And I hope this post will give others the courage to tell their story and do an honest evaluation of their health. Weight loss is great, but the old saying is true.. “If you don’t have your health, you don’t have anything.”
God bless you all.
from “Kimkins–How I feel about it now”
WOOFY
Just posted this on Kimkins:
This will be my last post on Kimkins.
I just saw the clip on the KTLA website and I’m shocked. Even more shocking was the explanation from Kimmer regarding the woman featured on the video clip, who 100% looks dead on like Kimmer’s before picture.
I have brought many people to Kimkins because it worked for me. However, I can no longer reconcile this fact with the mounting evidence that Kimmer/Heidi Diaz is a FRAUD. Her before and after picture was a fraud, her whole story was a fraud. This is clearly a business model built on deliberate, calculated dishonesty.
This whole charade of one person has turned this once loving, nurturing community into one of fear caused by a few fear-mongering admins, who are so eager to defend this lie.
As a person who values integrity and honesty with extremely high regards, I feel I can no longer be a part of this scam. I wish to apologize to those I’ve snapped at before, because they were trying to inquire the truth. Please forgive me. I acted prematurely and now I know what you know.
“Truth is mighty and will prevail!” - Mark Twain
PS…..my user name was WOOFY and Becky and Cutie, you two were so helpful to me when I started Kimkins and I just want to thank you!
from “This Just In…”
This will be my last post on Kimkins.
I just saw the clip on the KTLA website and I’m shocked. Even more shocking was the explanation from Kimmer regarding the woman featured on the video clip, who 100% looks dead on like Kimmer’s before picture.
I have brought many people to Kimkins because it worked for me. However, I can no longer reconcile this fact with the mounting evidence that Kimmer/Heidi Diaz is a FRAUD. Her before and after picture was a fraud, her whole story was a fraud. This is clearly a business model built on deliberate, calculated dishonesty.
This whole charade of one person has turned this once loving, nurturing community into one of fear caused by a few fear-mongering admins, who are so eager to defend this lie.
As a person who values integrity and honesty with extremely high regards, I feel I can no longer be a part of this scam. I wish to apologize to those I’ve snapped at before, because they were trying to inquire the truth. Please forgive me. I acted prematurely and now I know what you know.
“Truth is mighty and will prevail!” - Mark Twain
PS…..my user name was WOOFY and Becky and Cutie, you two were so helpful to me when I started Kimkins and I just want to thank you!
from “This Just In…”
Jan
Hi Deni, I found your blog on Christin’s site. Reading some of the things you went through on kimkins, reminds me of a little over a year ago what I went through…some days my calorie intake was lower then 500 calories. My hair thinned out too…but I am older and thought that was due to age, dizzyness or light headed sometimes too. I lost fast, lost alot, and gained it back just as fast too. I am now again on the journey of losing weight…but this time more healthy. Deni, you and the others have done so much for so many, God Bless You and I know with Him all things are Possible!!!
from “The Open Bench” comments
from “The Open Bench” comments
Deni
I just got back from my first visit to the doctor since January. The nurse who checked me in, actually came and asked me if it was possible that someone recorded my weight wrong the last time I was there.I proudly said, “No.. I really did weigh that much before”For a moment, I was proud again of my accomplishments.. for a moment
then, she asked me, “why are you here today?”
And I had to tell her the truth… and with a downward, broken hearted glance, I had to tell her that because of that wonderful, rapid weight loss that she was just gushing over me for… I needed to have the doctor run some tests to see if I had done any damage to myself or not.
She immediately stopped gushing over my weight loss… took down some notes, and shook her head as she walked out of the room.
The doctor came in… so proud and ecstatic to see my weight loss.. knowing that he and I had discussed it many times over the past few years, and then as he listened to HOW I lost the weight (with Kimkins- low carb, low fat, and usually 600-800 calories) he said… “Well, starvation always works doesn’t it… but hopefully you only lost weight and nothing else important for your body to function properly.”I had to tell him all of my symptoms.. and I had to admit them to myself first. I had truly felt all along that I was 100% healthier because of losing my weight. He and I both discussed the fact that I no longer have back pain, restless leg syndrome, insomnia, or low blood sugar “shakes” in the morning.
But.. then we also discussed the fact that I did experience some negative side effects from my NUTRITIONALLY DEFICIENT diet. And.. I was lucky.. I only had a few.. and they were not constant.. so I usually just brushed them to the side of my mind and ignored them as “oh, that’s normal”.
Here’s my side effects:
1. extra periods (told this was normal)
2. loss of hair … loss of about 60% of my thickness if not more. (told it was normal, and even looked it up online for myself! Saw that it said it was common in people who were dieting and skimmed over the part that said “fad diets” or nutritionally deficient diets.)
3. Lightheaded dizzy spells- never mentioned these to anyone .. they were not an everyday occurrence, and I had them sometimes prior to this diet so I easily ignored them.
4. Weird blurred vision- like my eyes would dilate at different degrees… things would get fuzzy and look far away and warped.. I would then readjust my own “focus” and a few minutes later it was back to normal. Again.. I didn’t mention it.. figured it was a fluke.. it only happened a few times.
5. heart flutters- never mentioned these to anyone either. Even when they happened, I dismissed them in my mind as quickly as I could. (these are still happening randomly)
Other strange things I noticed:
6. Peanut butter CRAVINGS… like really super cravings… and I knew I wasn’t the only one having this. I read post after post after post about people who were feeling guilty for giving into peanut butter or any kind of nuts. So, I wrote this off as “normal”
7. Milkshake CRAVINGS… again.. these cravings were much stronger than any craving I’d ever had before dieting. I heard lots of other people also talk about craving milkshakes, including my mom who also did the diet.both of these “cravings” were something that I, along with many others, chalked up to a strange coincidence, and I either ignored it.. or caved in a little and then felt extremely guilty about it.
Now, I’m really wondering if there is something in the peanut butter(nuts) and milk shakes that our bodies were SCREAMING for!!! Like maybe more fat? Calcium?I often typed in “listen to your body” over and over again in posts.. and it wasn’t until late August that I started to realize that even cravings were a way that our body tells us what it needs.
Anyway… I still don’t know if there’s anything wrong with me or not.. my doctor has ordered lots of tests to see where I’m “depleted” of certain things, and warned me strongly that while being extremely overweight isn’t good for your health, or for you heart… that sometimes losing it all super fast and not getting all the nutrients necessary for bodily functions.. is an even quicker route to heart disease.
So, now I’m wondering.. where inside Kimkins does it list “possible side effects”? Where is the “warning label”, the “if these symptoms arise, get it checked out announcement” ?With EVERY weight loss pill or plan that I’ve ever been on, there has been a warning list.. and a “common side effects” or even “in extreme cases side effects” list.. that I always read. I know myself.. and I just about always choose NOT to take medicines that have side effects that concern me. If I had been warned about these things, I don’t think I would have joined. If I had been warned about the possibility of these things, I certainly would not have convinced others to join!
The sad part really is, is that I didn’t realize that I wasn’t the only one with these symptoms until I started reading OFFSITE.I hated reading those “other forums” because they made everything sound so bad. They made me feel bad, and they exaggerated things so much. But, the symptoms they mentioned sounded vaguely familiar to me. They knotted up my stomach, and made me want to either fight or run away and pretend I never heard what they said.I saw some try to fight them….
and I resorted to my usual, curl up and ignore it technique for awhile.
If I did mention my worries to others inside Kimkins I only got pats on the back and reassurances that of course everything would be fine, and “that’s normal, don’t worry!”
And NOW.. it’s even worse.. if you even ask about a negative effect, you’re likely to be “accused” of stirring up the pot, or if you point out your negative side effects, you’re likely to get banned.
How is that safe for other members??? Shouldn’t everyone be made aware of symptoms to be on the look out for? I’m sure there are lots more negative effects that I didn’t have… and from the stories I’ve heard elsewhere.. I can only count myself lucky.
This is not a joking matter, this is not time for a “band-aid” announcement that “of course, you should always check with your doctor”. Or even comments to make those of us who “ignored symptoms” appear stupid or crazy or “extreme”. This is time to get real and time to take your health seriously.
How many of you truly talked to your doctors about your plan?Did you show him the food list?
Did you mention that you really only eat a few items on that list?Did you show him your fitday?
Did you write symptoms off as normal because you heard someone else had the same thing?
said that one of the reasons why I wanted to lose weight was because I wanted to be here long enough to see my kids and future grand kids grow up.
Now, it’s possible that losing weight has lowered the chances of that actually happening.
I remember when we often joked about how Kimkins didn’t need that little small print disclaimer of “results not typical” on our success stories.
Perhaps she does need to put up a disclaimer that “results ARE typical” on the side effects listing!!!
If you’re still doing Kimkins, as written or not… please stop for awhile and really take a look at your own symptoms. Don’t glorify your “pros” list and minimize your “cons” list.
You can get those “pros” with lots of safe plans, and eliminate the cons. Just think about it. /
And don’t ignore the promptings of your heart right now.
from “Where was the Warning Label?”
then, she asked me, “why are you here today?”
And I had to tell her the truth… and with a downward, broken hearted glance, I had to tell her that because of that wonderful, rapid weight loss that she was just gushing over me for… I needed to have the doctor run some tests to see if I had done any damage to myself or not.
She immediately stopped gushing over my weight loss… took down some notes, and shook her head as she walked out of the room.
The doctor came in… so proud and ecstatic to see my weight loss.. knowing that he and I had discussed it many times over the past few years, and then as he listened to HOW I lost the weight (with Kimkins- low carb, low fat, and usually 600-800 calories) he said… “Well, starvation always works doesn’t it… but hopefully you only lost weight and nothing else important for your body to function properly.”I had to tell him all of my symptoms.. and I had to admit them to myself first. I had truly felt all along that I was 100% healthier because of losing my weight. He and I both discussed the fact that I no longer have back pain, restless leg syndrome, insomnia, or low blood sugar “shakes” in the morning.
But.. then we also discussed the fact that I did experience some negative side effects from my NUTRITIONALLY DEFICIENT diet. And.. I was lucky.. I only had a few.. and they were not constant.. so I usually just brushed them to the side of my mind and ignored them as “oh, that’s normal”.
Here’s my side effects:
1. extra periods (told this was normal)
2. loss of hair … loss of about 60% of my thickness if not more. (told it was normal, and even looked it up online for myself! Saw that it said it was common in people who were dieting and skimmed over the part that said “fad diets” or nutritionally deficient diets.)
3. Lightheaded dizzy spells- never mentioned these to anyone .. they were not an everyday occurrence, and I had them sometimes prior to this diet so I easily ignored them.
4. Weird blurred vision- like my eyes would dilate at different degrees… things would get fuzzy and look far away and warped.. I would then readjust my own “focus” and a few minutes later it was back to normal. Again.. I didn’t mention it.. figured it was a fluke.. it only happened a few times.
5. heart flutters- never mentioned these to anyone either. Even when they happened, I dismissed them in my mind as quickly as I could. (these are still happening randomly)
Other strange things I noticed:
6. Peanut butter CRAVINGS… like really super cravings… and I knew I wasn’t the only one having this. I read post after post after post about people who were feeling guilty for giving into peanut butter or any kind of nuts. So, I wrote this off as “normal”
7. Milkshake CRAVINGS… again.. these cravings were much stronger than any craving I’d ever had before dieting. I heard lots of other people also talk about craving milkshakes, including my mom who also did the diet.both of these “cravings” were something that I, along with many others, chalked up to a strange coincidence, and I either ignored it.. or caved in a little and then felt extremely guilty about it.
Now, I’m really wondering if there is something in the peanut butter(nuts) and milk shakes that our bodies were SCREAMING for!!! Like maybe more fat? Calcium?I often typed in “listen to your body” over and over again in posts.. and it wasn’t until late August that I started to realize that even cravings were a way that our body tells us what it needs.
Anyway… I still don’t know if there’s anything wrong with me or not.. my doctor has ordered lots of tests to see where I’m “depleted” of certain things, and warned me strongly that while being extremely overweight isn’t good for your health, or for you heart… that sometimes losing it all super fast and not getting all the nutrients necessary for bodily functions.. is an even quicker route to heart disease.
So, now I’m wondering.. where inside Kimkins does it list “possible side effects”? Where is the “warning label”, the “if these symptoms arise, get it checked out announcement” ?With EVERY weight loss pill or plan that I’ve ever been on, there has been a warning list.. and a “common side effects” or even “in extreme cases side effects” list.. that I always read. I know myself.. and I just about always choose NOT to take medicines that have side effects that concern me. If I had been warned about these things, I don’t think I would have joined. If I had been warned about the possibility of these things, I certainly would not have convinced others to join!
The sad part really is, is that I didn’t realize that I wasn’t the only one with these symptoms until I started reading OFFSITE.I hated reading those “other forums” because they made everything sound so bad. They made me feel bad, and they exaggerated things so much. But, the symptoms they mentioned sounded vaguely familiar to me. They knotted up my stomach, and made me want to either fight or run away and pretend I never heard what they said.I saw some try to fight them….
and I resorted to my usual, curl up and ignore it technique for awhile.
If I did mention my worries to others inside Kimkins I only got pats on the back and reassurances that of course everything would be fine, and “that’s normal, don’t worry!”
And NOW.. it’s even worse.. if you even ask about a negative effect, you’re likely to be “accused” of stirring up the pot, or if you point out your negative side effects, you’re likely to get banned.
How is that safe for other members??? Shouldn’t everyone be made aware of symptoms to be on the look out for? I’m sure there are lots more negative effects that I didn’t have… and from the stories I’ve heard elsewhere.. I can only count myself lucky.
This is not a joking matter, this is not time for a “band-aid” announcement that “of course, you should always check with your doctor”. Or even comments to make those of us who “ignored symptoms” appear stupid or crazy or “extreme”. This is time to get real and time to take your health seriously.
How many of you truly talked to your doctors about your plan?Did you show him the food list?
Did you mention that you really only eat a few items on that list?Did you show him your fitday?
Did you write symptoms off as normal because you heard someone else had the same thing?
said that one of the reasons why I wanted to lose weight was because I wanted to be here long enough to see my kids and future grand kids grow up.
Now, it’s possible that losing weight has lowered the chances of that actually happening.
I remember when we often joked about how Kimkins didn’t need that little small print disclaimer of “results not typical” on our success stories.
Perhaps she does need to put up a disclaimer that “results ARE typical” on the side effects listing!!!
If you’re still doing Kimkins, as written or not… please stop for awhile and really take a look at your own symptoms. Don’t glorify your “pros” list and minimize your “cons” list.
You can get those “pros” with lots of safe plans, and eliminate the cons. Just think about it. /
And don’t ignore the promptings of your heart right now.
from “Where was the Warning Label?”
Jimmy
With time away in Missouri to rest, relax, and reflect on everything that’s happened over the past few months, I’ve now come to realize that my blog has changed in many ways and is headed in a direction that I feel isn’t in the best interests of the larger audience of readers who come here. Because of that, I think today is a good day to share some of my sincere regrets, what I have learned from those, and where I recognize I need to be refocusing on from this day forward.
In the last few months I have made some very real mistakes which have caused many people to question my intentions and motivations here at my blog. Admittedly, I was unwilling to listen to the criticism from those who were only trying to help me and I began growing frustrated to the point that my frustrations got the better of me.
Before I continue, I first owe everyone–whether you are friend or foe–a very big apology for taking liberties with a highly critical comment of me at my sister web site LowCarbNewsline.com earlier this month. I didn’t simply ignore the comment or even delete the comment in question. I admit that I modified it to be positive and replied in kind. When called on it, I replied it was a joke and did not show the remorse I should have for something I should not have done in the first place.
Not only was this an abuse of my editorial powers at that site, but it was highly unethical and wrong. For that I am truly sorry, and promise that in the future when I find myself frustrated, I will simply leave comments as they are, step away and remember that not everyone will agree with me. If you go to that forum, then you will see I have apologized in like manner there making it clear to everyone that I was wrong and am truly sorry.
Over the last few months there has been a growing concern from those in the low-carb community about my promotion of Kimkins. I had failed to openly disclose my affiliate relationship with that diet plan and I now realize I should have. Additionally, my insistence that Kimkins was just another low-carb diet similar to Atkins, Protein Power or South Beach as well as my posts encouraging readers to join me when I started what I believed to be the K/E option was overzealous to say the least. I apologize for not being more upfront about that.
More importantly, my refusal to properly review and then hold Kimkins to the same standard as other plans and approaches I’ve praised and criticized was a glaring mistake of omission for which I regret. My intentions were good, but now I can see why there were questions arising about me and my business relationship to Kimkins.
Call me stubborn, but for the life of me I could not see what the problem was; I truly believed I was indeed following K/E and honestly had not reviewed the other plans on the site. Now I know I should have.
While I’ve been on vacation in Missouri this past week, I’ve now taken the time with some gentle nudges from those that implored me to review all the plans, review the content that is publicly available (present and archived), and then review the historical content found on the Low- Carb Friends forum.
After doing that, I can now see why this issue with Kimkins has stirred up such a fiery controversy because most of the plans are a controversial approach to losing weight by encouraging fast weight loss without mention of the very real risks involved with doing so. I regret that I allowed my excitement about my renewed commitment to losing those last few pounds I wanted to overwhelm me to the point I lost my good sense.
I hope sharing this with you today will help us all avoid making similar missteps in the future. To be very honest, the thing that held my emotions so well was the strong sense of community I felt from those on the forums at Kimkins. It’s something that I missed terribly since I was banned from Low-Carb Friends and I didn’t recognize that until recently.
With the Kimkins forum, I felt a sense of belonging that often lacks when you’re writing day-to-day on a blog. There’s such a sense of community that I now recognize I can be part of if I join any number of online support forums by taking the initiative to do so. There are some truly GREAT people providing support out there.
In the past I did join Low-Carb Friends in part to be a part of a community and in part to promote my blog. In doing that, joining with an underlying agenda to serve my own needs, I missed the opportunity to really be part of a community and found myself quickly banished by the admins there. In my enthusiasm to promote my blog in the early days, I violated the terms of service and was rightfully banned.
Instead of doing what I should have done by apologizing to the admins and ask to be reinstated with the agreement I would not promote my blog within the forums anymore, I walked away disappointed and slowly allowed resentment to build. The January post I wrote at my blog about Low-Carb Friends earlier this year was inappropriate and uncalled for because it deeply offended many at that board. For this I am truly sorry and can only hope that, in time, those who make Low-Carb Friends their community for online support will find it in their hearts to forgive me.
I now realize that without Low-Carb Friends I would not have been able to review the historical posts that led to the creation of the controversial Kimkins web site. It is an eye-opening look at how many people were ill-advised and mistreated over months and years prior to the launch of the Kimkins web site that I started promoting last year. It is something I should have taken the time to read much sooner, something that should have been part of the necessary due diligence on my part before agreeing to support and promote what I believed was just another low-carb diet.
So first I must thank the admins and owner at Low-Carb Friends for maintaining the sticky thread “Ask Kimmer” because it has helped me begin to see many of the errors I’ve made in my assumptions about most of the Kimkins diet plans these past few months.
I also find myself once again in need of giving an apology to my readers here at “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb.” I allowed the strong sense of community I felt with Kimkins to cloud my judgment and subsequent action to continue promoting Kimkins even in the face of numerous people pointing out problems that are clear as day even after my podcast interview with Kimmer.
Had I only stepped back and looked objectively at the criticism for what it was–again a way to help, not harm me–then the entire last year may have taken a different path. While I cannot change what I have done in the past, I can change what I do starting today and moving forward.
Today begins a refocusing back to the original purpose and mission of my blog–to educate, encourage, and inspire people about the healthy low-carb lifestyle!
I have always maintained that each person must find the diet that works for them, whether that’s low-carb, low-fat, or whatever. If it works for you and you can do it over the long-term with your health improving because of it, then go for it and rejoice as you take control of your health! I very clearly do not agree with low-fat and low-calorie options as I lost most of my weight on the Atkins diet, but that does not mean they do not work, nor serve some well even in the short-term.
Because I do not agree with those dietary approaches, I focus on carbohydrate restriction and proper fat intake since research supports that as a healthy way to lose weight and find optimal health over the long-term.
In the past I have taken many others to task over their diets and I now regret I did not critically evaluate the full context of the various dietary plans for Kimkins.
I should have because, as many have repeatedly said, the plans are very low-calorie diets despite any specific requirement to count calories (in some plans like K/E), thus by design they are low-fat and low-carb because they are very-low-calorie in nature.
One of the most objective reviews I recently read was from my friend Carol Bardelli at the “Kudos for Low-Carb” blog. She provided a wealth of information about very low-calorie diets in that post that I encourage my readers to review to gain more understanding of why it’s important to nourish our bodies as we lose weight. Also, Sherrie from the “Pinch Of…” blog made some very valuable points on this same issue as well.
As one poster on Low-Carb Friends has integrated into her signature, “It shouldn’t be a RACE to get thin. It should be a Journey to good health.” I couldn’t agree more!
Therefore, you will notice I have made some necessary changes to my blog that reflect that sentiment to remind myself that part of finding what works for me and you finding what works for you means encouraging each other to also make good decisions that optimize our long-term health in the process. Livin’ la vida low-carb is as much about improving health as it is weight loss.
You will notice that I have removed the banners promoting the Kimkins diet today as a matter of conscience. In the last week I have realized that I cannot try to “educate, encourage and inspire” my readers if I am associated with Kimkins, a web site promoting some plans which may indeed be unhealthy if followed over the long-term.
My focus has been on the best of the five plans (K/E) and I cannot say they’re all sound and healthy ways to lose weight on your own. Because of this, I cannot encourage my readers to join the site knowing they may wind up following a plan that may do more harm than good in the long-term. Be smart about any diet plan you go on.
Let me also state clearly that I believe it is extremely important for people to research any diet before they begin and even talk with your doctor about not just the short-term impact, but also the long-term effects and potential health risks you may face.
While many believed I was making great big bundles of money from my affiliate relationship with Kimkins, let me just say that no amount of money is worth losing sight of the bigger picture to educate my readers with quality information, encourage them to find a way of eating to help them regain their health while losing weight, and inspire them to be their best while going through this process.
While I still believe it is possible to tweak things within some plans promoted by Kimkins, I also realize that this is strongly discouraged on the plan. If something is not working, then it’s easy to say you’re not working the plan. But, then again, as many of us know it’s in the little bit of tweaking that we find our strength and confidence to make the diet our own over the long-term. That’s what I did after Atkins, although I am sure the late great Dr. Robert C. Atkins would not object.
With that understanding now, I’m left questioning what I am really doing here and why I felt compelled to start making changes in my diet in the first place. I now realize I find myself exactly where many other low-carbers land when they lose weight with a low-carb diet–a place where I am comfortable making modifications that make low-carb work for me over the long-term!
I could label it and say it’s Atkins, or Kimkins, or South Beach, or any number of plans as recommended for maintenance, but that wouldn’t be honest! The truth is, I’m doing what works for Jimmy Moore right now and it is simply a low-carb diet where I’ve started to also look at my fat intake to control calories naturally. That’s all! I don’t need to place a label on it to make it mine and I certainly don’t need to convince my readers what they already know–finding the plan that’s right for you and then DOING IT!
By opening up my mind to better understand what I am doing, what I can tell my readers is that I now truly understand that I have not been following K/E as recommended, nor could I. What I have done is merely modify and play with what I’m eating to find what will work for me now and that’s simply been lowering carbohydrate, reducing fat slightly and paying more attention to carefully choose the treats I still do include to make the plan work for me.
For me, life without a small indulgences like bread and chocolate here and there is not what I want. So, I’m still playing around with what will work for me and wish others well with what works for them. If that includes low-carb products, then great; but if not, that’s cool, too.
Over the last few months, my promotion of and subsequent insistence that I am following the Kimkins K/E plan has caused a polarization within the various low-carb forums. I am deeply sorry for bringing much of this on myself, by both words and actions, by fueling the debate and ignoring many of the red flags and warnings people had for me.
We low-carbers are an ever-growing by leaps and bounds community online with brand new people looking for hope for their obesity and I am becoming more and more aware of that fact. With Kimkins, I saw an easy quick-fix and ran with it, unwittingly undermining my mission here to educate, encourage, and inspire others.
This too is something I hope my readers will forgive me for doing. As I go, I grow. I learn sometimes slowly along the way and can only hope that those who have spent time and effort to educate me, encourage me to take the time to really scrutinize what I’m doing, and inspire me to hold myself accountable, will understand that I am now listening, I am hearing you, and I am trying to make right what many have pointed out were errors on my part. I too am human, imperfect, and do make mistakes.
Where I’ve erred, I hope you can forgive me for that, too.
Along with the criticisms sent my way about Kimkins also came criticism for not clearly disclosing sponsor and affiliate relationships that allow me to maintain this blog freely to all who wish to read it. I strongly believe that those of us who write about low-carb need to be free to publish information that is lacking in the mainstream media, or even worse, manipulated or twisted in ways that cause confusion.
I’ve said it before, my purpose is to educate, encourage, and inspire.
I hope my readers understand that to write every single day like I do takes many hours of my time to do–time to research, review, read, gather information and then write my articles.
Over the last two years, the time invested in writing for my blog has grown from a few hours when I first began in April 2005 to now as much as 12 hours a day. It really has become more of a full-time job now and is something I cannot continue to do without a means to pay my bills and support my family.
I so passionately feel it’s important to continue on with my blog that I sought out a way to support my family so I can continue to write. But I failed to disclose those changes along the way with my readers. I had a responsibility to do so, and am now making changes to insure you understand how I choose sponsors and how they’re included here.
I do take seriously my real responsibility to choose wisely those whom are offering me opportunities to make my blog possible. Plus, I am keenly aware that not only are my readers a quality audience to many companies, but that my readers expect I will choose products and services from companies that are of the highest quality.
You’ll now notice in my sidebar, I have placed a conflict-of-interest disclosure that fully informs my readers that this blog is, in part, sponsored by companies who recognize the value of low-carbohydrate diets and respect my readers dietary choice. They want to do business with us and it is my policy that I will only accept sponsors and affiliates whom I believe offer quality products or services, along with good customer service and responsiveness to needs of my readers. While we won’t always agree about whom I’ve included, it should now be clear that banners on my sidebar are from sponsors and affiliates I have chosen to include after I’ve researched their offerings and am comfortable to offer something of value to many of my readers.
I’ve also clearly stated that when I am including a post that does mention a sponsors product or service, that is my opinion about the product or service and I have not been compelled by contractual obligation to promote the product or service to my readers within the text content of my blog. I want to assure my readers that none of the sponsors or affiliates they see on my sidebar have contracted with me to specifically mention or promote their products within the text content of my blog, nor will I enter into such contracts in the future. So, yes, when I am enthusiastic about a product or service, it is because I really am, not because I have to be because I’m being paid to say something I do not believe.
There is one small exception to this that I believe is a win-win for all of us. When a company that meets the standards to be included here offers a giveaway or contest to my readers with no obligation, and I write about it, then it is the writing about it that brings it to your attention. You are never under any obligation to participate or enter, but I feel including it meets my goal to educate, encourage and inspire. In posts such as this, I will clearly state the nature of my relationship in the promotion.
Right now I can only hope my readers will forgive my past sins and understand that I didn’t fully appreciate how important such disclosures are. I’ve taken many researchers to task because they did not adequately disclose potential conflicts of interest in studies, but I failed to hold myself to that same standard. I believe I am now correcting my own error of omission and hope you will continue to point out things if I fail to live up to my words in the future.
The last thing I feel it’s necessary to address is the fact I’ve allowed my emotions to get the better of me at times when I should have “taken my medicine” like a man. Instead, I acted out and sometimes aggressively responded to criticism in ways I wish I could take back. Calling those who were critical of my words and decisions various names, including “haters and crybabies,” was not only wrong, but failing to live up to the spirit of open-and-lively discussion and debate.
I closed the door to listen to some of my readers and realize how damaging that is to all of us, no matter what your view is on the controversy around Kimkins. I hope today to reopen the door to those who have been turned off and welcome you back with open arms so we can work together to help each other on this low-carb journey.
In the future, I will be ever-mindful that we’re all in this together. Some will agree with me, others will disagree. But all views are important and should be heard whether everyone agrees or not.
I will do my best to honor this commitment I am making today to temper my immediate reaction and try to give more thought to my replies in an effort to be a better writer and fulfill my desire to make the “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” blog a place where facts are at the forefront and opinions, while still critically important in the big picture, are provided by me in the light of solid, reputable evidence and data that must be part of any substantive debate of ideas in the health arena.
I realize now that I focused heavily on the positive feedback, largely ignoring the negative. While it’s important to stay positive, it’s also very important to be open to hearing the negative to really understand the issues. It’s constructive either way and that’s how I will view it from now on.
Without that acknowledgment and respect for the fact we don’t all agree about everything, we cannot make progress to educate others about the benefits of low-carb diets, encourage each other to be our best each day, nor can we effectively inspire those who want to know more to seek out and find more information, even with our faults.
So I am hoping today to begin anew on a path that will enable me to serve my readers and their best interests, to be cognizant of a standard of excellence I must hold myself to each and every day as I write about livin’ la vida low-carb, and remember the all-important bigger picture–YOU, my readers, our common goals and desires, our interconnectedness that makes us an online community on the same path, finding what works for each of us along the way and our mutual agreement and understanding that for the long-term, good health is attainable with healthy low-carb living.
Each of us must be able to freely share what is working for us as well as the pitfalls and obstacles we may face along the way. When we share these things–both the good and the bad–with each other, we all grow in our understanding and help each other in the long-term.
And that, my friends, really is where my heart is–to help, both myself and my readers, learn how livin’ la vida low-carb truly can benefit health over the long haul. It is a position I feel is strongly supported not just by the latest research, but also through my own experiences.
These experiences are ones I want to continue sharing with all the thousands of people who come to read here each day. Through that, I am sure there will be plenty of education, encouragement, and inspiration along the way. Even if someone decides low-carb isn’t for them, then at least they will realize it is something that works for many who do make the choice to follow it as their permanent way of eating for life.
I ask nothing more from you than to please allow me to try to be the best that I can be by continuing to support my mission here to educate, encourage and inspire. I cannot change who I am as a person. I’m not suddenly going to be different or less outspoken than I have been, but I will be much more aware of the fact that we are all in this together, and without you my readers, I cannot fulfill my hopes and dreams to help others find their way to health like I did.
Working together, we can do that and more! So I hope you know from the bottom of my heart, I’m sorry. Please forgive me for my mistakes and help me as I continue to learn and write about a subject we all are enthusiastically passionate about–that’s Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb, baby!
from “Livin La-Vida Lowcarb”
In the last few months I have made some very real mistakes which have caused many people to question my intentions and motivations here at my blog. Admittedly, I was unwilling to listen to the criticism from those who were only trying to help me and I began growing frustrated to the point that my frustrations got the better of me.
Before I continue, I first owe everyone–whether you are friend or foe–a very big apology for taking liberties with a highly critical comment of me at my sister web site LowCarbNewsline.com earlier this month. I didn’t simply ignore the comment or even delete the comment in question. I admit that I modified it to be positive and replied in kind. When called on it, I replied it was a joke and did not show the remorse I should have for something I should not have done in the first place.
Not only was this an abuse of my editorial powers at that site, but it was highly unethical and wrong. For that I am truly sorry, and promise that in the future when I find myself frustrated, I will simply leave comments as they are, step away and remember that not everyone will agree with me. If you go to that forum, then you will see I have apologized in like manner there making it clear to everyone that I was wrong and am truly sorry.
Over the last few months there has been a growing concern from those in the low-carb community about my promotion of Kimkins. I had failed to openly disclose my affiliate relationship with that diet plan and I now realize I should have. Additionally, my insistence that Kimkins was just another low-carb diet similar to Atkins, Protein Power or South Beach as well as my posts encouraging readers to join me when I started what I believed to be the K/E option was overzealous to say the least. I apologize for not being more upfront about that.
More importantly, my refusal to properly review and then hold Kimkins to the same standard as other plans and approaches I’ve praised and criticized was a glaring mistake of omission for which I regret. My intentions were good, but now I can see why there were questions arising about me and my business relationship to Kimkins.
Call me stubborn, but for the life of me I could not see what the problem was; I truly believed I was indeed following K/E and honestly had not reviewed the other plans on the site. Now I know I should have.
While I’ve been on vacation in Missouri this past week, I’ve now taken the time with some gentle nudges from those that implored me to review all the plans, review the content that is publicly available (present and archived), and then review the historical content found on the Low- Carb Friends forum.
After doing that, I can now see why this issue with Kimkins has stirred up such a fiery controversy because most of the plans are a controversial approach to losing weight by encouraging fast weight loss without mention of the very real risks involved with doing so. I regret that I allowed my excitement about my renewed commitment to losing those last few pounds I wanted to overwhelm me to the point I lost my good sense.
I hope sharing this with you today will help us all avoid making similar missteps in the future. To be very honest, the thing that held my emotions so well was the strong sense of community I felt from those on the forums at Kimkins. It’s something that I missed terribly since I was banned from Low-Carb Friends and I didn’t recognize that until recently.
With the Kimkins forum, I felt a sense of belonging that often lacks when you’re writing day-to-day on a blog. There’s such a sense of community that I now recognize I can be part of if I join any number of online support forums by taking the initiative to do so. There are some truly GREAT people providing support out there.
In the past I did join Low-Carb Friends in part to be a part of a community and in part to promote my blog. In doing that, joining with an underlying agenda to serve my own needs, I missed the opportunity to really be part of a community and found myself quickly banished by the admins there. In my enthusiasm to promote my blog in the early days, I violated the terms of service and was rightfully banned.
Instead of doing what I should have done by apologizing to the admins and ask to be reinstated with the agreement I would not promote my blog within the forums anymore, I walked away disappointed and slowly allowed resentment to build. The January post I wrote at my blog about Low-Carb Friends earlier this year was inappropriate and uncalled for because it deeply offended many at that board. For this I am truly sorry and can only hope that, in time, those who make Low-Carb Friends their community for online support will find it in their hearts to forgive me.
I now realize that without Low-Carb Friends I would not have been able to review the historical posts that led to the creation of the controversial Kimkins web site. It is an eye-opening look at how many people were ill-advised and mistreated over months and years prior to the launch of the Kimkins web site that I started promoting last year. It is something I should have taken the time to read much sooner, something that should have been part of the necessary due diligence on my part before agreeing to support and promote what I believed was just another low-carb diet.
So first I must thank the admins and owner at Low-Carb Friends for maintaining the sticky thread “Ask Kimmer” because it has helped me begin to see many of the errors I’ve made in my assumptions about most of the Kimkins diet plans these past few months.
I also find myself once again in need of giving an apology to my readers here at “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb.” I allowed the strong sense of community I felt with Kimkins to cloud my judgment and subsequent action to continue promoting Kimkins even in the face of numerous people pointing out problems that are clear as day even after my podcast interview with Kimmer.
Had I only stepped back and looked objectively at the criticism for what it was–again a way to help, not harm me–then the entire last year may have taken a different path. While I cannot change what I have done in the past, I can change what I do starting today and moving forward.
Today begins a refocusing back to the original purpose and mission of my blog–to educate, encourage, and inspire people about the healthy low-carb lifestyle!
I have always maintained that each person must find the diet that works for them, whether that’s low-carb, low-fat, or whatever. If it works for you and you can do it over the long-term with your health improving because of it, then go for it and rejoice as you take control of your health! I very clearly do not agree with low-fat and low-calorie options as I lost most of my weight on the Atkins diet, but that does not mean they do not work, nor serve some well even in the short-term.
Because I do not agree with those dietary approaches, I focus on carbohydrate restriction and proper fat intake since research supports that as a healthy way to lose weight and find optimal health over the long-term.
In the past I have taken many others to task over their diets and I now regret I did not critically evaluate the full context of the various dietary plans for Kimkins.
I should have because, as many have repeatedly said, the plans are very low-calorie diets despite any specific requirement to count calories (in some plans like K/E), thus by design they are low-fat and low-carb because they are very-low-calorie in nature.
One of the most objective reviews I recently read was from my friend Carol Bardelli at the “Kudos for Low-Carb” blog. She provided a wealth of information about very low-calorie diets in that post that I encourage my readers to review to gain more understanding of why it’s important to nourish our bodies as we lose weight. Also, Sherrie from the “Pinch Of…” blog made some very valuable points on this same issue as well.
As one poster on Low-Carb Friends has integrated into her signature, “It shouldn’t be a RACE to get thin. It should be a Journey to good health.” I couldn’t agree more!
Therefore, you will notice I have made some necessary changes to my blog that reflect that sentiment to remind myself that part of finding what works for me and you finding what works for you means encouraging each other to also make good decisions that optimize our long-term health in the process. Livin’ la vida low-carb is as much about improving health as it is weight loss.
You will notice that I have removed the banners promoting the Kimkins diet today as a matter of conscience. In the last week I have realized that I cannot try to “educate, encourage and inspire” my readers if I am associated with Kimkins, a web site promoting some plans which may indeed be unhealthy if followed over the long-term.
My focus has been on the best of the five plans (K/E) and I cannot say they’re all sound and healthy ways to lose weight on your own. Because of this, I cannot encourage my readers to join the site knowing they may wind up following a plan that may do more harm than good in the long-term. Be smart about any diet plan you go on.
Let me also state clearly that I believe it is extremely important for people to research any diet before they begin and even talk with your doctor about not just the short-term impact, but also the long-term effects and potential health risks you may face.
While many believed I was making great big bundles of money from my affiliate relationship with Kimkins, let me just say that no amount of money is worth losing sight of the bigger picture to educate my readers with quality information, encourage them to find a way of eating to help them regain their health while losing weight, and inspire them to be their best while going through this process.
While I still believe it is possible to tweak things within some plans promoted by Kimkins, I also realize that this is strongly discouraged on the plan. If something is not working, then it’s easy to say you’re not working the plan. But, then again, as many of us know it’s in the little bit of tweaking that we find our strength and confidence to make the diet our own over the long-term. That’s what I did after Atkins, although I am sure the late great Dr. Robert C. Atkins would not object.
With that understanding now, I’m left questioning what I am really doing here and why I felt compelled to start making changes in my diet in the first place. I now realize I find myself exactly where many other low-carbers land when they lose weight with a low-carb diet–a place where I am comfortable making modifications that make low-carb work for me over the long-term!
I could label it and say it’s Atkins, or Kimkins, or South Beach, or any number of plans as recommended for maintenance, but that wouldn’t be honest! The truth is, I’m doing what works for Jimmy Moore right now and it is simply a low-carb diet where I’ve started to also look at my fat intake to control calories naturally. That’s all! I don’t need to place a label on it to make it mine and I certainly don’t need to convince my readers what they already know–finding the plan that’s right for you and then DOING IT!
By opening up my mind to better understand what I am doing, what I can tell my readers is that I now truly understand that I have not been following K/E as recommended, nor could I. What I have done is merely modify and play with what I’m eating to find what will work for me now and that’s simply been lowering carbohydrate, reducing fat slightly and paying more attention to carefully choose the treats I still do include to make the plan work for me.
For me, life without a small indulgences like bread and chocolate here and there is not what I want. So, I’m still playing around with what will work for me and wish others well with what works for them. If that includes low-carb products, then great; but if not, that’s cool, too.
Over the last few months, my promotion of and subsequent insistence that I am following the Kimkins K/E plan has caused a polarization within the various low-carb forums. I am deeply sorry for bringing much of this on myself, by both words and actions, by fueling the debate and ignoring many of the red flags and warnings people had for me.
We low-carbers are an ever-growing by leaps and bounds community online with brand new people looking for hope for their obesity and I am becoming more and more aware of that fact. With Kimkins, I saw an easy quick-fix and ran with it, unwittingly undermining my mission here to educate, encourage, and inspire others.
This too is something I hope my readers will forgive me for doing. As I go, I grow. I learn sometimes slowly along the way and can only hope that those who have spent time and effort to educate me, encourage me to take the time to really scrutinize what I’m doing, and inspire me to hold myself accountable, will understand that I am now listening, I am hearing you, and I am trying to make right what many have pointed out were errors on my part. I too am human, imperfect, and do make mistakes.
Where I’ve erred, I hope you can forgive me for that, too.
Along with the criticisms sent my way about Kimkins also came criticism for not clearly disclosing sponsor and affiliate relationships that allow me to maintain this blog freely to all who wish to read it. I strongly believe that those of us who write about low-carb need to be free to publish information that is lacking in the mainstream media, or even worse, manipulated or twisted in ways that cause confusion.
I’ve said it before, my purpose is to educate, encourage, and inspire.
I hope my readers understand that to write every single day like I do takes many hours of my time to do–time to research, review, read, gather information and then write my articles.
Over the last two years, the time invested in writing for my blog has grown from a few hours when I first began in April 2005 to now as much as 12 hours a day. It really has become more of a full-time job now and is something I cannot continue to do without a means to pay my bills and support my family.
I so passionately feel it’s important to continue on with my blog that I sought out a way to support my family so I can continue to write. But I failed to disclose those changes along the way with my readers. I had a responsibility to do so, and am now making changes to insure you understand how I choose sponsors and how they’re included here.
I do take seriously my real responsibility to choose wisely those whom are offering me opportunities to make my blog possible. Plus, I am keenly aware that not only are my readers a quality audience to many companies, but that my readers expect I will choose products and services from companies that are of the highest quality.
You’ll now notice in my sidebar, I have placed a conflict-of-interest disclosure that fully informs my readers that this blog is, in part, sponsored by companies who recognize the value of low-carbohydrate diets and respect my readers dietary choice. They want to do business with us and it is my policy that I will only accept sponsors and affiliates whom I believe offer quality products or services, along with good customer service and responsiveness to needs of my readers. While we won’t always agree about whom I’ve included, it should now be clear that banners on my sidebar are from sponsors and affiliates I have chosen to include after I’ve researched their offerings and am comfortable to offer something of value to many of my readers.
I’ve also clearly stated that when I am including a post that does mention a sponsors product or service, that is my opinion about the product or service and I have not been compelled by contractual obligation to promote the product or service to my readers within the text content of my blog. I want to assure my readers that none of the sponsors or affiliates they see on my sidebar have contracted with me to specifically mention or promote their products within the text content of my blog, nor will I enter into such contracts in the future. So, yes, when I am enthusiastic about a product or service, it is because I really am, not because I have to be because I’m being paid to say something I do not believe.
There is one small exception to this that I believe is a win-win for all of us. When a company that meets the standards to be included here offers a giveaway or contest to my readers with no obligation, and I write about it, then it is the writing about it that brings it to your attention. You are never under any obligation to participate or enter, but I feel including it meets my goal to educate, encourage and inspire. In posts such as this, I will clearly state the nature of my relationship in the promotion.
Right now I can only hope my readers will forgive my past sins and understand that I didn’t fully appreciate how important such disclosures are. I’ve taken many researchers to task because they did not adequately disclose potential conflicts of interest in studies, but I failed to hold myself to that same standard. I believe I am now correcting my own error of omission and hope you will continue to point out things if I fail to live up to my words in the future.
The last thing I feel it’s necessary to address is the fact I’ve allowed my emotions to get the better of me at times when I should have “taken my medicine” like a man. Instead, I acted out and sometimes aggressively responded to criticism in ways I wish I could take back. Calling those who were critical of my words and decisions various names, including “haters and crybabies,” was not only wrong, but failing to live up to the spirit of open-and-lively discussion and debate.
I closed the door to listen to some of my readers and realize how damaging that is to all of us, no matter what your view is on the controversy around Kimkins. I hope today to reopen the door to those who have been turned off and welcome you back with open arms so we can work together to help each other on this low-carb journey.
In the future, I will be ever-mindful that we’re all in this together. Some will agree with me, others will disagree. But all views are important and should be heard whether everyone agrees or not.
I will do my best to honor this commitment I am making today to temper my immediate reaction and try to give more thought to my replies in an effort to be a better writer and fulfill my desire to make the “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” blog a place where facts are at the forefront and opinions, while still critically important in the big picture, are provided by me in the light of solid, reputable evidence and data that must be part of any substantive debate of ideas in the health arena.
I realize now that I focused heavily on the positive feedback, largely ignoring the negative. While it’s important to stay positive, it’s also very important to be open to hearing the negative to really understand the issues. It’s constructive either way and that’s how I will view it from now on.
Without that acknowledgment and respect for the fact we don’t all agree about everything, we cannot make progress to educate others about the benefits of low-carb diets, encourage each other to be our best each day, nor can we effectively inspire those who want to know more to seek out and find more information, even with our faults.
So I am hoping today to begin anew on a path that will enable me to serve my readers and their best interests, to be cognizant of a standard of excellence I must hold myself to each and every day as I write about livin’ la vida low-carb, and remember the all-important bigger picture–YOU, my readers, our common goals and desires, our interconnectedness that makes us an online community on the same path, finding what works for each of us along the way and our mutual agreement and understanding that for the long-term, good health is attainable with healthy low-carb living.
Each of us must be able to freely share what is working for us as well as the pitfalls and obstacles we may face along the way. When we share these things–both the good and the bad–with each other, we all grow in our understanding and help each other in the long-term.
And that, my friends, really is where my heart is–to help, both myself and my readers, learn how livin’ la vida low-carb truly can benefit health over the long haul. It is a position I feel is strongly supported not just by the latest research, but also through my own experiences.
These experiences are ones I want to continue sharing with all the thousands of people who come to read here each day. Through that, I am sure there will be plenty of education, encouragement, and inspiration along the way. Even if someone decides low-carb isn’t for them, then at least they will realize it is something that works for many who do make the choice to follow it as their permanent way of eating for life.
I ask nothing more from you than to please allow me to try to be the best that I can be by continuing to support my mission here to educate, encourage and inspire. I cannot change who I am as a person. I’m not suddenly going to be different or less outspoken than I have been, but I will be much more aware of the fact that we are all in this together, and without you my readers, I cannot fulfill my hopes and dreams to help others find their way to health like I did.
Working together, we can do that and more! So I hope you know from the bottom of my heart, I’m sorry. Please forgive me for my mistakes and help me as I continue to learn and write about a subject we all are enthusiastically passionate about–that’s Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb, baby!
from “Livin La-Vida Lowcarb”
Nille
I´m Nille.
I don´t know if I was banned, but I was “moderated”. Even if I posted some of my posts dissapeared. I managed to copy one:
“I am a new member - and having paid my 60 bucks, I would of course really like to know the real reason why admins are leaving the site. Like everyone else, I’ve read their blogs and based on those and the posts in here - it is very natural to wonder !
I’ve been doing my own research (which I’m fairly good at) - Ive been doing lowcarb since 1982 and as mentioned in my presentation I’m an admin of a Norwegian board. I go the source when I need/want information.
I think a lot of problems could have been avoided if the real Kimmer (whoever / wherever) would step forward with her true identity and picture - showing the world - or at least her paying members , who she is. Not beeing evasive and hiding behind supposedly false pictures/pictures of other people. It might, it might not be true, but there’s onky one person who can put a stop to the slander, and that’s Kimmer herself. It’s all about honesty and trust. We can choose to trust and we can choose not to. YES, it’s all about choice. But we’re not stupid either. One admin leaving OK, - two - OK, but three ? Including the poster girl ?
This is YOUR forum for people following YOUR plan Kimmer - following YOUR advice. All of them have paid to be able to read about your plan, get your tips and suppurt. To be able to share own and other experiences with the plan. Most of us don’t know what we’re getting until we have signed up and paid. Of course we could read up on it on other forums, but what is better than getting it from the founder herself ? The doctors, the nutritionists, the writers of diet books all over the world, - show their faces. Even in little Norway they do. It’s a sign of respect for the followers, readers, paying members !
I’m not a suspicious person -but it’s not until we join we find that the owner is behaving somewhat strange. Why the secrecy ?
Don’t blame me for wondering - I’ve been part of and a working volunteer (not beeing paid one dime - quite the opposite, I pay - I support) at forums for years and I’ve never come across this kind of behaviour.
Don’t blame me for asking the obvious question - the whole low carb word is wondering - WHO ARE YOU ….. REALLY ?”
I thought it was rather polite, all considered.
I´ve signed the petition and reported in the BBB.
After my posts dissapeared, I sent a mail to them requesting a refund - and I got it !
And of course I´m not able to log on anymore (not since September 7th).
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins”
I don´t know if I was banned, but I was “moderated”. Even if I posted some of my posts dissapeared. I managed to copy one:
“I am a new member - and having paid my 60 bucks, I would of course really like to know the real reason why admins are leaving the site. Like everyone else, I’ve read their blogs and based on those and the posts in here - it is very natural to wonder !
I’ve been doing my own research (which I’m fairly good at) - Ive been doing lowcarb since 1982 and as mentioned in my presentation I’m an admin of a Norwegian board. I go the source when I need/want information.
I think a lot of problems could have been avoided if the real Kimmer (whoever / wherever) would step forward with her true identity and picture - showing the world - or at least her paying members , who she is. Not beeing evasive and hiding behind supposedly false pictures/pictures of other people. It might, it might not be true, but there’s onky one person who can put a stop to the slander, and that’s Kimmer herself. It’s all about honesty and trust. We can choose to trust and we can choose not to. YES, it’s all about choice. But we’re not stupid either. One admin leaving OK, - two - OK, but three ? Including the poster girl ?
This is YOUR forum for people following YOUR plan Kimmer - following YOUR advice. All of them have paid to be able to read about your plan, get your tips and suppurt. To be able to share own and other experiences with the plan. Most of us don’t know what we’re getting until we have signed up and paid. Of course we could read up on it on other forums, but what is better than getting it from the founder herself ? The doctors, the nutritionists, the writers of diet books all over the world, - show their faces. Even in little Norway they do. It’s a sign of respect for the followers, readers, paying members !
I’m not a suspicious person -but it’s not until we join we find that the owner is behaving somewhat strange. Why the secrecy ?
Don’t blame me for wondering - I’ve been part of and a working volunteer (not beeing paid one dime - quite the opposite, I pay - I support) at forums for years and I’ve never come across this kind of behaviour.
Don’t blame me for asking the obvious question - the whole low carb word is wondering - WHO ARE YOU ….. REALLY ?”
I thought it was rather polite, all considered.
I´ve signed the petition and reported in the BBB.
After my posts dissapeared, I sent a mail to them requesting a refund - and I got it !
And of course I´m not able to log on anymore (not since September 7th).
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins”
Misty
I emailed her and told her that the diet wasn’t as it was represented in WW… that I was expecting a healthy way to lose weight quick NOT a starvation diet bordering on an ED. I did request a refund, so I made it clear I didn’t want any part of her site BUT she banned me without a refund. Whether I wanted to use the site or not, shouldn’t I still have access since she refused the refund? Shouldn’t it now be my choice whether I visit the site or not? Surely my $60 bought me that right!
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins” comments
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins” comments
devil5care
Tavosk,
Um, yes I DID pay for a lifetime membership. . . now you may want to “believe” for me, but you’re not allowed! Nor can you answer for me, begin to speak for me or expect me not to answer when you post questions directly to me. . . So, instead of assuming the answer for me, the REAL answer is NO, I did NOT get what I paid for as a matter of fact. I was told that the founder of this site would show me how she lost over 198 lbs. in less than a year AND KEPT IT OFF for over 6 years. Where is the maintenance program? Tell me, what established guidelines do I use to keep it off?
I keep hearing this idea of negativity thrown around, but wait, read my post and now read yours. . . who’s really being negative. . . “Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan. . . “ ummm, did you hear ME cussing anynone out in my post???. . . can you suggest a ban for yourself for that ‘infraction?’ See, you think you have the right to say anything you’d like, but I, and others, are all supposed to cower in the corner like a whipped dog – don’t think so! You’re an Admin, you have acceess to all my posts, pm’s, etc. . . go read what I have to say. Negative?? Did you even take the time to go through my posts – I think if you did you would have found that 98% of them have been answering questions and supporting people. . . not telling them what they HAVE to do what they can and can not say or think.
Do I have problems and issues with this site. . . you betcha; I never, not once, hid my feelings about that. . . people with the ability to hit some keys and ban me do not scare me, what scares me is the people you do frighten. . . people that have been bullied into staying quiet because they’re afraid of being banned from the friends they have made and care about.
Goodness me, I got ‘yelled’ at for the ‘goose-stepping’ reference I made when I member got banned FOR NO GOOD REASON – to anyone reading this, note that I wouldn’t belittle what happened in the 40’s by comparing it to Kimmer or Kimkins or anyone or anything else for that matter, but if you have something to say, then say it. . . staying quiet when you have an issue with people being sent away, for posts being deleted, whole journals being tossed out, say SOMETHING when you have an issue with lies and deception. . . if you know these things are happening and have issue with them but choose to stay silent then you have no right to say anything when one of the admins. tells you that you crossed the line; nor do you have the right to say you didn’t know what was going on.
I keep reading that ‘I don’t care who Kimmer is, I don’t care if she lied to get my money, I’M LOSING WEIGHT, — how cheaply do you sell your integrety? As my momma always said, birds of a feather flock together. . . if you don’t care about honesty and integrety and go along with bannings and censorship and LIES because it’s only about YOU and your weight-loss, then you’re right, say nothing about what’s going on because you and Kimmer are of the same ilk (well, except for the weight loss thing that is). Was selling yourself for 60 bucks worth it? Was losing some lbs. worth trading in your values, your dignity and your self-respect??
There was a time when there were people and admins on here who had REAL values and cared for their fellow members; who tried to help and who tried to guide people not by threatening, but by advice and encouragement. . . I’m sure some still exsist, or maybe they have all left this desolate place (which is what happens when people are not ‘allowed’ to speak or think on message boards, or anywhere else for that matter). Like I said before, I’m not quitting or running away, if you want me gone then ban me. . . I will not be afraid to speak out against things that are blatently wrong, I will not be intimidated by fear.
And for all those say I used too many Nazi references in regard to what is happening here: people being sent away, mass censorship, fear of speaking out. . . I just had to leave you with this:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Trade Unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Joined for $59.95.Banned for Member Complaints & TOS Violation (new TOS –can’t say ANYTHING, except WTG & Kimmer is a saint :))Asked for refund, but no response yet. . . think I’ll ever get one???
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins"
Um, yes I DID pay for a lifetime membership. . . now you may want to “believe” for me, but you’re not allowed! Nor can you answer for me, begin to speak for me or expect me not to answer when you post questions directly to me. . . So, instead of assuming the answer for me, the REAL answer is NO, I did NOT get what I paid for as a matter of fact. I was told that the founder of this site would show me how she lost over 198 lbs. in less than a year AND KEPT IT OFF for over 6 years. Where is the maintenance program? Tell me, what established guidelines do I use to keep it off?
I keep hearing this idea of negativity thrown around, but wait, read my post and now read yours. . . who’s really being negative. . . “Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan. . . “ ummm, did you hear ME cussing anynone out in my post???. . . can you suggest a ban for yourself for that ‘infraction?’ See, you think you have the right to say anything you’d like, but I, and others, are all supposed to cower in the corner like a whipped dog – don’t think so! You’re an Admin, you have acceess to all my posts, pm’s, etc. . . go read what I have to say. Negative?? Did you even take the time to go through my posts – I think if you did you would have found that 98% of them have been answering questions and supporting people. . . not telling them what they HAVE to do what they can and can not say or think.
Do I have problems and issues with this site. . . you betcha; I never, not once, hid my feelings about that. . . people with the ability to hit some keys and ban me do not scare me, what scares me is the people you do frighten. . . people that have been bullied into staying quiet because they’re afraid of being banned from the friends they have made and care about.
Goodness me, I got ‘yelled’ at for the ‘goose-stepping’ reference I made when I member got banned FOR NO GOOD REASON – to anyone reading this, note that I wouldn’t belittle what happened in the 40’s by comparing it to Kimmer or Kimkins or anyone or anything else for that matter, but if you have something to say, then say it. . . staying quiet when you have an issue with people being sent away, for posts being deleted, whole journals being tossed out, say SOMETHING when you have an issue with lies and deception. . . if you know these things are happening and have issue with them but choose to stay silent then you have no right to say anything when one of the admins. tells you that you crossed the line; nor do you have the right to say you didn’t know what was going on.
I keep reading that ‘I don’t care who Kimmer is, I don’t care if she lied to get my money, I’M LOSING WEIGHT, — how cheaply do you sell your integrety? As my momma always said, birds of a feather flock together. . . if you don’t care about honesty and integrety and go along with bannings and censorship and LIES because it’s only about YOU and your weight-loss, then you’re right, say nothing about what’s going on because you and Kimmer are of the same ilk (well, except for the weight loss thing that is). Was selling yourself for 60 bucks worth it? Was losing some lbs. worth trading in your values, your dignity and your self-respect??
There was a time when there were people and admins on here who had REAL values and cared for their fellow members; who tried to help and who tried to guide people not by threatening, but by advice and encouragement. . . I’m sure some still exsist, or maybe they have all left this desolate place (which is what happens when people are not ‘allowed’ to speak or think on message boards, or anywhere else for that matter). Like I said before, I’m not quitting or running away, if you want me gone then ban me. . . I will not be afraid to speak out against things that are blatently wrong, I will not be intimidated by fear.
And for all those say I used too many Nazi references in regard to what is happening here: people being sent away, mass censorship, fear of speaking out. . . I just had to leave you with this:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Trade Unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Joined for $59.95.Banned for Member Complaints & TOS Violation (new TOS –can’t say ANYTHING, except WTG & Kimmer is a saint :))Asked for refund, but no response yet. . . think I’ll ever get one???
from “Ex-Supporters of Kimkins"
Kelly130
I was banned on Sep. 19th. I had been a very active kimkins member, since June 7th when I read the Women’s World article. When Jimmy Moore left the kimkins site, I started venturing out and reading, trying to figure out why he left. I found the “Fascination with Kimmer” thread and have actually read the entire 4 threads…..it opened my eyes, along with all the other blogs. When I left, I posted a long message to my challenge friends, explaining my issues with both Kimmer and her diet. I waited until most of them had read it, then I PM’ed Kimmer and asked for a refund on the basis of fraudulent advertising. I was banned within a minute, and I have never heard from them regarding my refund request, even though I also submitted a “ticket” to tech services.
from “If You’ve Been Banned from Kimkins, Post Here”, lowcarbfriends.com
from “If You’ve Been Banned from Kimkins, Post Here”, lowcarbfriends.com
richchick
Hi Everyone,I am so glad that I found LCF !!!!!I was a member of Kimkins from 7/1/07 and followed the eating plans off and on. In 3 months I lost 35 pounds. I did ‘cheat’ from time to time when I began to feel weak and tired. Now I am glad I cheated, it may have saved my life!!!!!!! I am still having problems with constipation and other things.I shared this info in the forums that I participated in and found myself bannedas of yesterday. I think the reason I was banned is because I said that I thought I would up my carbs in order to remain healthy while I was losing weight.I thought Kimmer had sold the website since that e-mail attesting to this had been sent out by Kimmer to members. Now I wonder if she sold it to herself since I was banned after the so-called ’sale’. I can’t believe that the new owners are behaving just like kimmer.
When I found out the truth about Kimmer, I felt like I had been conned and I became hurt and confused. My ‘trust level’ fell to an all time low. Unfortunately, I let this affect my eating habits. I was afraid I was going to die from eating the kimkins way so I began to really eat.I began nibbling, snacking, and grazing through the day. Now I am not sure how to eat healthily and still lose weight. I don’t want to gain my weight back.‘Thank God for this site!!!!!! I can come here and get the support that I need to get through this confusion and get back on my feet. It helps to know that I am not the only one!
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
When I found out the truth about Kimmer, I felt like I had been conned and I became hurt and confused. My ‘trust level’ fell to an all time low. Unfortunately, I let this affect my eating habits. I was afraid I was going to die from eating the kimkins way so I began to really eat.I began nibbling, snacking, and grazing through the day. Now I am not sure how to eat healthily and still lose weight. I don’t want to gain my weight back.‘Thank God for this site!!!!!! I can come here and get the support that I need to get through this confusion and get back on my feet. It helps to know that I am not the only one!
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
Brenda
My name is Brenda and I just recently left the Kimkins madness. My husband is currently deployed to Iraq and I thought that Kimkins would be a great way to drop some excess weight fast and surprise him when he came home. Boy was I WRONG!!! I started in August on K/E, it just didn’t work for me, I only lost a few pounds and felt very discouraged. I was really confused because I had done the M/E in the past and the weight seemed to come right off. I still continued to do K/E and I got sick, really sick, at one point I remember lying in bed and I could feel my heart start to quiver and then beat rapidly and strong, I was terrified. I honestly thought I was going to die, I remember thinking Oh god, please don’t let me die, my husband is gone and my little girl (5) will find me dead in my bed in the morning, dear god please don’t do that to my little girl. It was the most horrible, fearful night I have ever had. I would never recommend KK to anyone, I think it’s incredibly dangerous and the site should be banned.On another note, I’m happy to announce that I’ve been on M/E for 2 days and I’m down 2.5 lbs! Woo Hoo!!
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
janamonkey
Helllooooo !
I’ve been thinking about posting in this thread- I never was a member at KK but I did do it for about a month. I think because it was a short time and I never cut out all the veggies I am not experiencing hair loss (thank GOD) but what is so upsetting is that my MIND is messed up.
I feel so obsessed about calories now! I finally had to BAN myself from fitday, no kidding. It’s really upsetting me because I feel like I’ve lost some part of myself or something. I don’t know if that makes sense but I’ve never in my life struggled with anything close to an ED and now I feel like I’m on the brink of it.
So, I hope that by discussing it here I can find some kind of healing
and above everything else I am so mad at myself for doing something that now I see is so stupid!
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
I’ve been thinking about posting in this thread- I never was a member at KK but I did do it for about a month. I think because it was a short time and I never cut out all the veggies I am not experiencing hair loss (thank GOD) but what is so upsetting is that my MIND is messed up.
I feel so obsessed about calories now! I finally had to BAN myself from fitday, no kidding. It’s really upsetting me because I feel like I’ve lost some part of myself or something. I don’t know if that makes sense but I’ve never in my life struggled with anything close to an ED and now I feel like I’m on the brink of it.
So, I hope that by discussing it here I can find some kind of healing
and above everything else I am so mad at myself for doing something that now I see is so stupid!
from “Kimkins Refugees Support Group” lowcarbfriends.com
Dragonfly
I have been officially banned. Woo Hoo.
I feel so much lighter.
I guess it is no surprise since I have been over there asking questions and probably making people THINK. Which I know is difficult in their deprived and starved state but maybe it got through.
In any case, if the person that is running the site is really the “new owner” then they would want to keep the customers they have so word of mouth would be better for them. I guess they just don’t know how to do business. Because there are hundreds of ex members who, I am sure, are telling everyone they know to stay away from the site and not to join. That can’t be good for business. But I am sure that Kimmer doesn’t care because, last count, she had over 2.4 mil in the bank from all us naive overweight hopefuls.
Sure she got my money but I know she will get their just rewards (whatever they may be). I think it is worth finding this site and getting back on track the healthy way. So, now I am refreshed and rid of the uncertainty that came with the other site and feel good.
So THANK YOU KIMMER FOR BANNING ME. You truly are as helpful and kind as you pretend to be.
NOT!!!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
I feel so much lighter.
I guess it is no surprise since I have been over there asking questions and probably making people THINK. Which I know is difficult in their deprived and starved state but maybe it got through.
In any case, if the person that is running the site is really the “new owner” then they would want to keep the customers they have so word of mouth would be better for them. I guess they just don’t know how to do business. Because there are hundreds of ex members who, I am sure, are telling everyone they know to stay away from the site and not to join. That can’t be good for business. But I am sure that Kimmer doesn’t care because, last count, she had over 2.4 mil in the bank from all us naive overweight hopefuls.
Sure she got my money but I know she will get their just rewards (whatever they may be). I think it is worth finding this site and getting back on track the healthy way. So, now I am refreshed and rid of the uncertainty that came with the other site and feel good.
So THANK YOU KIMMER FOR BANNING ME. You truly are as helpful and kind as you pretend to be.
NOT!!!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Shawn
*Waves* another former KK member coming over.
I’d been off plan for a month or so since I was losing weight so fast that my wallet couldn’t keep up with the constant buying of clothes in smaller sizes. After regaining almost 10 pounds of the nearly 40 I lost, I went to the site and noticed a lot of people gone. The I hit Google and nearly got the shock of my life at all the heck that had broken loose.
I’m sick to my stomach at having been deceived and scammed. I work with the Law Enforcent community thru the State of Illinois so I should know how to spot a scammer. That said, I remember some of the pictures that Heidi posted on LCF and on the first incarnation of the KK site and when I saw the infamous Red Dress Picture, I immediately noticed the difference. I had this nagging feeling that something was off but pushed it aside because I was succeeding and losing more weight than I had ever before. But I’ve also suffered from severe dizzy spells and increased hair loss since being on the plan and I’m sure they are from the low calories I consumed.
I’ve submitted a ticket for a refund due to misrepresentation and indicated that I would be contacting the BBB, The California Attorney General and the Illinois Attorney General if I did not receive a refund. I’m wondering if I should not also submit an invoice to KK but I don’t know what email address to use. I doubt that I’ll see my money again but I’m sure going to try.
So here I am, floundering a bit but on my way to a workable plan for me that will get me to my goal. Glad to be among friends.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
I’d been off plan for a month or so since I was losing weight so fast that my wallet couldn’t keep up with the constant buying of clothes in smaller sizes. After regaining almost 10 pounds of the nearly 40 I lost, I went to the site and noticed a lot of people gone. The I hit Google and nearly got the shock of my life at all the heck that had broken loose.
I’m sick to my stomach at having been deceived and scammed. I work with the Law Enforcent community thru the State of Illinois so I should know how to spot a scammer. That said, I remember some of the pictures that Heidi posted on LCF and on the first incarnation of the KK site and when I saw the infamous Red Dress Picture, I immediately noticed the difference. I had this nagging feeling that something was off but pushed it aside because I was succeeding and losing more weight than I had ever before. But I’ve also suffered from severe dizzy spells and increased hair loss since being on the plan and I’m sure they are from the low calories I consumed.
I’ve submitted a ticket for a refund due to misrepresentation and indicated that I would be contacting the BBB, The California Attorney General and the Illinois Attorney General if I did not receive a refund. I’m wondering if I should not also submit an invoice to KK but I don’t know what email address to use. I doubt that I’ll see my money again but I’m sure going to try.
So here I am, floundering a bit but on my way to a workable plan for me that will get me to my goal. Glad to be among friends.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Mary
Hi my name is Mary and I am a Kimkins “Survivor.” I joined this site on September 27 and this is my first post. I have been doing a lot of reading. It is so great to see all the familiar people here that I missed so much on the KK site.
I have to admit that I have only known about the problems going on for the past couple of weeks. Don’t know how I missed it other than the fact that I had been only visiting a few threads once summer vacation was over. I work in a school so was off for the summer and spent most of my time on the KK site. In the beginning I was all over the place and even was trying to answer questions in the newbie section. I know how Deni and others feel about feeling like a fraud because I was just giving out the information that I had heard and tried from others. It was working and I was losing fast so I considered that I was qualified to give information. I lost 45 lbs. from June to August and then starting noticing things “wrong” on the site. People missing and no trace of them. For a while I justified sticking with the plan and then gradually started tweaking it when I was reading about the problems.
I think it finally sunk in for me when Diane/Glamgirl and Slim both sent me the link to Christin’s blogspot on the same day. I was actually late for work because I couldn’t tear myself away from it and walked all around the house carrying my laptop watching and listening to Christin while I got ready. I decided then and there that I had to do something and here I am. I haven’t been banned and still check in on my groups but haven’t posted. I did just pm an old friend who resurfaced after being gone and just sent my e-mail address so hopefully I can clue him in. He was instrumental to my success and some may know him from over there. He is Turbo100 Miguel.
I am excited to be here and apologize for being long winded but I guess I have so many emotions built up that I had a lot to say and could go on and on.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
I have to admit that I have only known about the problems going on for the past couple of weeks. Don’t know how I missed it other than the fact that I had been only visiting a few threads once summer vacation was over. I work in a school so was off for the summer and spent most of my time on the KK site. In the beginning I was all over the place and even was trying to answer questions in the newbie section. I know how Deni and others feel about feeling like a fraud because I was just giving out the information that I had heard and tried from others. It was working and I was losing fast so I considered that I was qualified to give information. I lost 45 lbs. from June to August and then starting noticing things “wrong” on the site. People missing and no trace of them. For a while I justified sticking with the plan and then gradually started tweaking it when I was reading about the problems.
I think it finally sunk in for me when Diane/Glamgirl and Slim both sent me the link to Christin’s blogspot on the same day. I was actually late for work because I couldn’t tear myself away from it and walked all around the house carrying my laptop watching and listening to Christin while I got ready. I decided then and there that I had to do something and here I am. I haven’t been banned and still check in on my groups but haven’t posted. I did just pm an old friend who resurfaced after being gone and just sent my e-mail address so hopefully I can clue him in. He was instrumental to my success and some may know him from over there. He is Turbo100 Miguel.
I am excited to be here and apologize for being long winded but I guess I have so many emotions built up that I had a lot to say and could go on and on.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
SunEGrl
Well, it looks like I have found most everyone from KK. I said my goodbyes on the site last night and was banned by this morning. Pretty soon they aren’t going to have anyone left. After hearing what Kristin had to say, I just couldn’t continue to endorse or follow a diet plan that has so many flaws. All along I thought the bootcamp plan was rediculous, but I tried to follow true Kimkins to the letter but found that my energy level would get to low so I would add in a little cheese or a few macadamia nuts. I was never in the 400-600 calorie range, so I never really had any major side effects but I realize that more people are coming forward with their health issues so that really concerns me. Hopefully, I will be able to continue my weight loss with the support of other former KK members.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Gweebles
I think a lot of us are suffering Post Kimmers Stress Syndrome and feel kind of lost and betrayed. I never felt like I fit in there so the transition was easy. All along I knew that Atkins was my way, I had lost 200 pounds before on it (and I have real pictures to prove it!) But I was so desperate for the “quick fix” that I was willing to become a “Kimmer Zombie.” HEY I LIKE THAT PHRASE!!
Anyway, older and wiser now. I have been Atkins (with the exception of a bite of my daughter’s PBJ sandwich 2 days ago) I don’t know how much, if any, I’ve lost, but my moods are better, no more fuzzybrain, and I feel better. I have energy again and I KNOW I’m getting the nutrients I need. Plus, I haven’t abused laxatives since then!!!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Anyway, older and wiser now. I have been Atkins (with the exception of a bite of my daughter’s PBJ sandwich 2 days ago) I don’t know how much, if any, I’ve lost, but my moods are better, no more fuzzybrain, and I feel better. I have energy again and I KNOW I’m getting the nutrients I need. Plus, I haven’t abused laxatives since then!!!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Tami
Unfortunately, before I understoon the full scope of the problem, I wrote up a ‘compliment’ on the BBB site, but since that time, curiosity got the better of me and I started researching on my own. So, this morning I attempted to delete my positive review, not sure if I was successful or not, but I did change what I wrote to “I am deleting my review…” so hopefully it will be taken off.
I was so psyched in the beginning because I was losing and I wasn’t hungry, which I thought was a good thing, but doesn’t that mean that your metabolism has shut down when you aren’t hungry?
Anyway, after gaining about 5-10 pounds this week from my depressive eating, I am ready to get back on track. I just don’t know who’s track to get on. I have ordered a few books on Amazon and can’t wait to get them in and find the right track for me. In the meantime, I am thinking of starting the Atkins induction phase tomorrow.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
I was so psyched in the beginning because I was losing and I wasn’t hungry, which I thought was a good thing, but doesn’t that mean that your metabolism has shut down when you aren’t hungry?
Anyway, after gaining about 5-10 pounds this week from my depressive eating, I am ready to get back on track. I just don’t know who’s track to get on. I have ordered a few books on Amazon and can’t wait to get them in and find the right track for me. In the meantime, I am thinking of starting the Atkins induction phase tomorrow.
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
living healthy
Well, Folks, I thought I was doing great on KK. I was feeling the best I ever felt. Steadily losing every week. I knew I came up on the right WOE for me, UNTIL someone commented a few weeks back on their fingernails. They had verical ridges and no lunulas (half moons), except for thumbs. I, quickly, looked at mine to, only, discover ditto had happened to me. I know the fingernails don’t lie about your body. Something was missing, despite my abundance of vitamin and mineral supplements. I started upping my fats and good carbs and happy to say the moons are back. With the changes in diet, I still feel good, but my weight is frozen. I will keep working with my WOE until I find the right combination for me. As far as having the anorexia, that’s, fortunately, not me. I stayed cheat free for 90 days straight and had no problems with upping my intakes. I do have a new mind set in that I do want a healthy body.
Good luck to all of you!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Good luck to all of you!
from “Kimkins Survivors”, lowcarbdiscussion.com
Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Silver Spice
I was totally against Kimmer from the first time I registered with LCF, which if I remember correctly was late 2002 or 2003, but under a different screen name. It was SOOO obvious to me that her avitar was a fake and her comments conflicted at times. I was even warned by LCF administrators when I questioned Kimmer’s posts and photos and eventually left this site … but that was then, this is now, and we all have grown past that. I came back with the blessing of the admins here, and just stayed out of Kimmer discussions.
Then I was drawn in by others who “seemed” to have found the magic potion and I decided to try the Kimmer experiment … oh how I wish I had never done that. I can only hope that some day I’ll find my metabolism again.
from lowcarbfriends.com “Why the Fascination with Kimmer #8″
Then I was drawn in by others who “seemed” to have found the magic potion and I decided to try the Kimmer experiment … oh how I wish I had never done that. I can only hope that some day I’ll find my metabolism again.
from lowcarbfriends.com “Why the Fascination with Kimmer #8″
Carol
I was banned yesterday after the ugly email. Now I left over a week ago and I haven’t posted over there since I left. I was not bold in leaving, I just said that some people were taking the diet to extremes but our admin was very good about telling people to up their fat and cals. all the time so I told them to listen to his advice and gave a list of supplements to keep them healthy. The admin re-posted what I said and wished me well. But his little birdy followed a link from someone’s blog to her forum here and when she didn’t like me questioning whether I could trust her, she fired off the email and got me banned. I wouldn’t have known if I hadn’t decided to go over there to delete my journal last night.
Honestly, last night I felt like just giving up posting and trying to make friends with my fellow dieters. I had been really close to this person and thought I knew her so why put myself out there to care about someone else just to get hurt again. But it’s a new day and Atkins is working for me. I had gained 3 lbs. when I left because of all the turmoil. Now that my body is starting to adjust to Atkins I’ve lost all I gained + a pound. Now that’s the best revenge-I can eat 1400-1500 luscious calories and lose weight. Woohoo!
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
Honestly, last night I felt like just giving up posting and trying to make friends with my fellow dieters. I had been really close to this person and thought I knew her so why put myself out there to care about someone else just to get hurt again. But it’s a new day and Atkins is working for me. I had gained 3 lbs. when I left because of all the turmoil. Now that my body is starting to adjust to Atkins I’ve lost all I gained + a pound. Now that’s the best revenge-I can eat 1400-1500 luscious calories and lose weight. Woohoo!
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
Miss Christine
My name is Christine, and I also was on Kimkins. Now I am not sure what plan I am going to use to continue on my shedding journey. My MIL told that I didn’t want to lose weight because when you lose something you want to find it again so I shed weight instead because I never plan on finding these numbers again. Unless they are in my bank account. Anyway, I just turned 45 at the beginning of the month and celebrated my 25 anniversary with my best friend and husband in June. I have three wonderful children 24, 22, and 19. Two boys and a girl. I have alway been chunky but after my first was born I just kept gaining. I have a hypothyroidism that went untreated for 17 years and 2 years ago I found out that I have PCOS and am insulin resistant.
I guess I didn’t totally understand the Kimkins plan because I just worried about staying below 20 carbs. I never worried about my fats or calories. I never gave up my butter, coconut oil, cream or raw milk. I shed 37 pounds and have been in a stall for over 6 weeks. Have been losing inches like crazy but would like to see the scale move. I guess the reason the scale isn’t moving right now is because I have started swimming and I swim 40 laps or 1000 meters 4 days a week. I am trying to make it 5 days but just haven’t gotten there yet. Hopefully I will starting next week.
I have enclosed the Ebook send out by Kimmer early this week. I guess this was thrown together to stop people from requesting refund through Paypal for not fulfilling her agreement. It is a real joke. Enjoy the laugh.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com, “Kimkins Survivors”
I guess I didn’t totally understand the Kimkins plan because I just worried about staying below 20 carbs. I never worried about my fats or calories. I never gave up my butter, coconut oil, cream or raw milk. I shed 37 pounds and have been in a stall for over 6 weeks. Have been losing inches like crazy but would like to see the scale move. I guess the reason the scale isn’t moving right now is because I have started swimming and I swim 40 laps or 1000 meters 4 days a week. I am trying to make it 5 days but just haven’t gotten there yet. Hopefully I will starting next week.
I have enclosed the Ebook send out by Kimmer early this week. I guess this was thrown together to stop people from requesting refund through Paypal for not fulfilling her agreement. It is a real joke. Enjoy the laugh.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com, “Kimkins Survivors”
vicalyn
Here I am the closet KK survivor. My story is simple. I joined in July hoping to put my low carb lifestyle back on the right track. All I accomplished was further derailment. I got off the train when the dizzy spells crept up on me. One call to the Dr. and he said STOP! Healthy lower carb is ok, but this isn’t healthy. This is disordered eating. I jumped ship back to my trusted and true Atkins way of eating before the “pictures” came to light. Atkins is the way for me to go and I have this lesson that reminds me of that fact.
I haven’t really talked to anyone about my KK experience. I feel like I should have known better. When it sounds too good to be true it probably is. My refund request was denied by whoever is on the other side of the keyboard typing under the name of Kimmer. I guess I shall chalk this up to a life lesson, a $60 life lesson.
The silly thing is that my copy of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution was given to me, I guess the best things in life really are free. I harbor no ill will towards that person claiming to wear the red dress, I survived. I am still here, still surviving.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
I haven’t really talked to anyone about my KK experience. I feel like I should have known better. When it sounds too good to be true it probably is. My refund request was denied by whoever is on the other side of the keyboard typing under the name of Kimmer. I guess I shall chalk this up to a life lesson, a $60 life lesson.
The silly thing is that my copy of Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution was given to me, I guess the best things in life really are free. I harbor no ill will towards that person claiming to wear the red dress, I survived. I am still here, still surviving.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
Saturday, October 13, 2007
bonheurbelle
You know its funny, I think Kimmer was a bit angry that I changed my avatar to a frog in response to someone to making a comment about kermit the frog and comparing kimmmers to kermit the frog and how just because kimmers didn’t lose weight that she wasn’t a fraud. I said, I wouldn’t buy a diet from puppet named Kermit and I wouldn’t have bought one from kimkins if I had known it was a real weight loss story. I thought most of the diets in the woman’s world were supposed to be researched. any way , I am glad to be here and am trying to figure out what I am going to do from here. I would like to know if it is possible to do atkins with adding more fiber. I really have had issues with when I went on the kimkins diet and it was suggested to just take more and more laxatives , I got to the point , It was causing health issues and that isn’t worth it. I really want to get back to a low carb diet, just a healthy one. Thanks,
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
Adrienne522
I cannot believe how dangerous my thought have become in reference to food. When my mom was telling about South Beach and then she handed me the book, I went to the Week one menu. 2 snacks??? Are you serious? My mom could not believe the garbage that was coming out of my mouth. She asked me what was wrong and if I neede to talk to someone about food. That was my changing point. I look thinner, I have smaller clothes, but my ideas that I have of food are totally wacked out. Thanks for listening everyone. Today is a new day!!!!
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
mt hulagirl
I won’t call my self a refugee. I guess, I don’t feel as victimized. I never actually did Kimkins for more than a few days. I always started to feel a bit woozy.. and added in some almonds or other nuts, or just a bit more fat. Presto, I felt fine.
I also took a break for a couple of months and so I was just starting again when this all happened. I think low carb is important, I also think that carbs that are eaten need to be low glycemic index. There is a huge difference between an apple and a slice of white bread. Or even between a strawberry (good carb) and a banana. So if you are adding back some carbs, I recommend getting informed on the glycemic index. (I.e. How fast it hits your blood sugar)
I miss my last forum at Kimkins - the lose 50 by Christmas.. but I think there will be a migration of that committed group.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
I also took a break for a couple of months and so I was just starting again when this all happened. I think low carb is important, I also think that carbs that are eaten need to be low glycemic index. There is a huge difference between an apple and a slice of white bread. Or even between a strawberry (good carb) and a banana. So if you are adding back some carbs, I recommend getting informed on the glycemic index. (I.e. How fast it hits your blood sugar)
I miss my last forum at Kimkins - the lose 50 by Christmas.. but I think there will be a migration of that committed group.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Survivors”
Friday, October 12, 2007
Feel.
There is an immediate draw to a plan that promises you quick weight loss with no exercise. The plan promises you that you will not be hungry. It promises you quick results.You sign up. You want to know more. You find out that many of the people there are having such fast losses. You want that, too.
Told to follow those with the best successes, you strive to emulate those successes. To make them your own.
You are hungry for a few days, but that goes away. Now you feel high. Happy. Light. You are eating 1200 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
The loss slows. You know you could probably do with a little less. You could cut a little here, shear a little there. You feel a little bit of hunger, but this time, it is only for a day. That leaves you quickly. You are eating 900 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. You feel perhaps that you have cut back on your fiber too much, and read that others are using laxatives in different forms to keep things moving. You use this. It works. You decide that you will use this method every time you feel uncomfortable. Now you can cut back your caloric intake further. Those in the boot camp program are allowed up to 500 calories a day. You change. You conform. You are now eating 500 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. It is said that you are eating too much because you are not exercising like the people in boot camp. You know you must be weak to not try harder. You must not want this bad enough. So you shift. You change things. Just a little. Just a smidge. Light as a feather, feeling high in your mind. No one notices your hair is brittle. It wouldn’t matter. You are now eating 300 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. You feel palpitations occasionally as though your heart is fluttering. Your family has noticed. Your friends worry. You have made changes. You are strong in your mind, and others wouldn’t understand. They are not strong like you are. You will show them. You are now eating 200 calories a day and you are exercising. And you don’t feel a thing.
You don’t feel a thing.
The coroner pronounced you dead at 2:34 am this morning. You suffered a heart attack because your body consumed the muscles of your heart for energy, and your body could no longer sustain itself. Your mother sobs in the corner. Your daughter stands, glassy-eyed, holding your cold hand. She is four, and she doesn’t understand.
And you don’t feel a thing.
Told to follow those with the best successes, you strive to emulate those successes. To make them your own.
You are hungry for a few days, but that goes away. Now you feel high. Happy. Light. You are eating 1200 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
The loss slows. You know you could probably do with a little less. You could cut a little here, shear a little there. You feel a little bit of hunger, but this time, it is only for a day. That leaves you quickly. You are eating 900 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. You feel perhaps that you have cut back on your fiber too much, and read that others are using laxatives in different forms to keep things moving. You use this. It works. You decide that you will use this method every time you feel uncomfortable. Now you can cut back your caloric intake further. Those in the boot camp program are allowed up to 500 calories a day. You change. You conform. You are now eating 500 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. It is said that you are eating too much because you are not exercising like the people in boot camp. You know you must be weak to not try harder. You must not want this bad enough. So you shift. You change things. Just a little. Just a smidge. Light as a feather, feeling high in your mind. No one notices your hair is brittle. It wouldn’t matter. You are now eating 300 calories a day and you don’t feel a thing.
Your loss slows. You feel palpitations occasionally as though your heart is fluttering. Your family has noticed. Your friends worry. You have made changes. You are strong in your mind, and others wouldn’t understand. They are not strong like you are. You will show them. You are now eating 200 calories a day and you are exercising. And you don’t feel a thing.
You don’t feel a thing.
The coroner pronounced you dead at 2:34 am this morning. You suffered a heart attack because your body consumed the muscles of your heart for energy, and your body could no longer sustain itself. Your mother sobs in the corner. Your daughter stands, glassy-eyed, holding your cold hand. She is four, and she doesn’t understand.
And you don’t feel a thing.
Stephanie
In good conscience, I can’t keep silent about the Kimkins diet any longer.
Yes, I tried Kimkins back in June and July.
Yes, I lost weight, about 14 lbs in about 3 weeks.
Yes, I paid $60 to belong to a forum for support and encouragement along with the dietary guidelines published by “Kimmer”, the screenname of Heidi Diaz, whose reputation in the low carb world has….ermmm….fallen into some disrepute lately.
I thought it was the best solution to overweight I’d ever heard.I got sucked in by promises (and results) of quick weightloss with no exercise.
I’m not a patient person, so this appealed to me enormously. When I do anything important, I tend to go “whole hog” and overboard sometimes. Plus, I travel a lot, and when I’m home it’s hard to find time to work out. Oh, this diet just sounds like a dream come true, doesn’t it?
I didn’t know enough about dieting in general to know any better, so when the pounds began falling off I was raving, excited and told a lot of people about Kimkins. I had no idea what was coming….
At week 3*, my weight loss stopped. I began questioning Kimmer and the admins on the forum. Their advice was “drop your carbs, drop your fats…”that food” isn’t allowed on Kimkins etc.”This meant, in a practical sense, drop your calories. So I did. For a little while I dropped my daily caloric intake to approximately 600-800 per day.
How did I feel?
Ravenously hungry. My stomach growled almost constantly. Deciding it was time to kick up my exercise routine a notch, I tried to work out one day on the elliptical machine at the Y (I’d been walking at least a mile a day or every other day at that time in my hilly neighborhood). After about 6-7 minutes I was getting woozy, my knees felt like jello, and I couldn’t see straight. I decided to finish my workout on a treadmill. I took it easy, but only could finish another 4 minutes before the dizziness and weakness in my legs made me a little scared and I stopped.My daughter, the RN, who was working out with me said “Mom, you look kind of funny, are you ok? Maybe you better sit down and just drink some water.” Red Flag #1
Oddly enough…the weight loss never resumed. Even at lowered calories. Red Flag #2Shortly after that day at the Y (I didn’t make the connection between my caloric intake and the failed workout) I began experiencing what felt like gallbladder attacks. My GERD was out of control and I had to begin taking double my daily dose of Nexium. Red Flag #3
I began adding some fat back into my diet, knowing by that time that keeping your gallbladder “out of work” is not advisable. Of course this upped my caloric intake considerably.
I began to think…it must be the diet. I didn’t want to quit. I wanted to keep going. I desperately wanted to lose weight–still do!
But then I began looking around on the internet. I found a couple of low-carb support forums and to my surprise (and horror) it turned out that on a couple of them, Kimkins as a WOE was somewhat frowned upon by experienced low carbers. Red Flag #4What???? Why??
I needed to find out why.
The more I looked the worse it got.
Kimkins Controversy
Kimkins Dangers
Kimkins Survivors
…and there are more. Links on all those blogs will open your eyes.
When Jimmy Moore pulled his affiliation and posted his apology to the low carb world, I knew it was time for a serious personal reality check.There are many bloggers who have explained just why Kimkins is such a dangerous dietary plan. I won’t attempt to explain the medicine and science of it here.Suffice it to give you some important links:
VP Health & Fitness
Burn The Fat blog
Kimkins Diet Review (VP again)
Most of what’s wrong with Kimkins is stated over and over again in the books I’ve been reading. Kimmer (Heidi) claims to have cobbled together her WOE from Stillman’s and Atkins and then tweaked it into something she calls her own. I haven’t read Stillman’s Diet but I have now read Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution, and I assure you, although the similarities are there between Atkins Induction program and Kimkins - she removed some of the most important nutritional considerations that Dr Atkins insisted on.
Inside the Kimkins organization, there’s an ongoing shakeup in the administrative section. Becky (aka Littlebit on the KK forum) has been banned for ‘differences of opinion’. Amy (aka Curlygirl) long a forum regular and excellent cook with her own site–is now MIA from Kimkins forum. I don’t know for sure but I think maybe some of the Kimkins insiders, even those who did take the weight off with her program and are now trying to maintain their weight, are beginning to see the light.
The bottom line is, Heidi Diaz continues to promote and make a lot of money from her dangerously low calorie-low fat-lowcarb-no exercise needed** crash diet, and people are calling her on the carpet about it.Just because *some* of the Kimkins followers are enjoying some weight loss success (yes, there are some), I predict that sooner or later most of them will experience metabolic slowdown, thyroid problems, electrolyte derangements, hormonal imbalances, muscle-mass wasting, and many other long term health problems.
Just because it’s not happening to them TODAY doesn’t make this diet safe!
We’re talking long term dangerous effects. Life changing disability or death may result from following any low carb-lowfat-low calorie diet!!
Just because people drink and drive and live to tell about it - does NOT make drinking and driving safe!
Just because people experiment with illegal drugs and live to tell about it - does NOT make illegal and recreational drug use SAFE.
Kimkins, as with any other RISKY behavior, may not kill you today…you may feel ok today and maybe tomorrow and maybe even, if you’re really healthy and lucky next month….but sooner or later, as my mom always said….the chickens WILL come home to roost.
from Living Low Carb and Lovin’ It, “Silent No More”
Yes, I tried Kimkins back in June and July.
Yes, I lost weight, about 14 lbs in about 3 weeks.
Yes, I paid $60 to belong to a forum for support and encouragement along with the dietary guidelines published by “Kimmer”, the screenname of Heidi Diaz, whose reputation in the low carb world has….ermmm….fallen into some disrepute lately.
I thought it was the best solution to overweight I’d ever heard.I got sucked in by promises (and results) of quick weightloss with no exercise.
I’m not a patient person, so this appealed to me enormously. When I do anything important, I tend to go “whole hog” and overboard sometimes. Plus, I travel a lot, and when I’m home it’s hard to find time to work out. Oh, this diet just sounds like a dream come true, doesn’t it?
I didn’t know enough about dieting in general to know any better, so when the pounds began falling off I was raving, excited and told a lot of people about Kimkins. I had no idea what was coming….
At week 3*, my weight loss stopped. I began questioning Kimmer and the admins on the forum. Their advice was “drop your carbs, drop your fats…”that food” isn’t allowed on Kimkins etc.”This meant, in a practical sense, drop your calories. So I did. For a little while I dropped my daily caloric intake to approximately 600-800 per day.
How did I feel?
Ravenously hungry. My stomach growled almost constantly. Deciding it was time to kick up my exercise routine a notch, I tried to work out one day on the elliptical machine at the Y (I’d been walking at least a mile a day or every other day at that time in my hilly neighborhood). After about 6-7 minutes I was getting woozy, my knees felt like jello, and I couldn’t see straight. I decided to finish my workout on a treadmill. I took it easy, but only could finish another 4 minutes before the dizziness and weakness in my legs made me a little scared and I stopped.My daughter, the RN, who was working out with me said “Mom, you look kind of funny, are you ok? Maybe you better sit down and just drink some water.” Red Flag #1
Oddly enough…the weight loss never resumed. Even at lowered calories. Red Flag #2Shortly after that day at the Y (I didn’t make the connection between my caloric intake and the failed workout) I began experiencing what felt like gallbladder attacks. My GERD was out of control and I had to begin taking double my daily dose of Nexium. Red Flag #3
I began adding some fat back into my diet, knowing by that time that keeping your gallbladder “out of work” is not advisable. Of course this upped my caloric intake considerably.
I began to think…it must be the diet. I didn’t want to quit. I wanted to keep going. I desperately wanted to lose weight–still do!
But then I began looking around on the internet. I found a couple of low-carb support forums and to my surprise (and horror) it turned out that on a couple of them, Kimkins as a WOE was somewhat frowned upon by experienced low carbers. Red Flag #4What???? Why??
I needed to find out why.
The more I looked the worse it got.
Kimkins Controversy
Kimkins Dangers
Kimkins Survivors
…and there are more. Links on all those blogs will open your eyes.
When Jimmy Moore pulled his affiliation and posted his apology to the low carb world, I knew it was time for a serious personal reality check.There are many bloggers who have explained just why Kimkins is such a dangerous dietary plan. I won’t attempt to explain the medicine and science of it here.Suffice it to give you some important links:
VP Health & Fitness
Burn The Fat blog
Kimkins Diet Review (VP again)
Most of what’s wrong with Kimkins is stated over and over again in the books I’ve been reading. Kimmer (Heidi) claims to have cobbled together her WOE from Stillman’s and Atkins and then tweaked it into something she calls her own. I haven’t read Stillman’s Diet but I have now read Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution, and I assure you, although the similarities are there between Atkins Induction program and Kimkins - she removed some of the most important nutritional considerations that Dr Atkins insisted on.
Inside the Kimkins organization, there’s an ongoing shakeup in the administrative section. Becky (aka Littlebit on the KK forum) has been banned for ‘differences of opinion’. Amy (aka Curlygirl) long a forum regular and excellent cook with her own site–is now MIA from Kimkins forum. I don’t know for sure but I think maybe some of the Kimkins insiders, even those who did take the weight off with her program and are now trying to maintain their weight, are beginning to see the light.
The bottom line is, Heidi Diaz continues to promote and make a lot of money from her dangerously low calorie-low fat-lowcarb-no exercise needed** crash diet, and people are calling her on the carpet about it.Just because *some* of the Kimkins followers are enjoying some weight loss success (yes, there are some), I predict that sooner or later most of them will experience metabolic slowdown, thyroid problems, electrolyte derangements, hormonal imbalances, muscle-mass wasting, and many other long term health problems.
Just because it’s not happening to them TODAY doesn’t make this diet safe!
We’re talking long term dangerous effects. Life changing disability or death may result from following any low carb-lowfat-low calorie diet!!
Just because people drink and drive and live to tell about it - does NOT make drinking and driving safe!
Just because people experiment with illegal drugs and live to tell about it - does NOT make illegal and recreational drug use SAFE.
Kimkins, as with any other RISKY behavior, may not kill you today…you may feel ok today and maybe tomorrow and maybe even, if you’re really healthy and lucky next month….but sooner or later, as my mom always said….the chickens WILL come home to roost.
from Living Low Carb and Lovin’ It, “Silent No More”
What If?
Some ask, “What if?”
What if the testimonies at “Survivors” are not real?
What if , instead of people who have really followed Kimkins, these were tales planted to scare people?
What if , instead of honesty, this was a sock puppet blog?
What if, instead of integrity, this was based on lies?
What if, instead of being what it is, it is what it isn’t?
The only portions written by the author here are unnamed and are original content.
The testimonies are believed to be real and are submitted by people who have stated that they have, in fact, followed Kimkins.
No testimony is repeated twice, edited, or changed by the author without persmission from submittants. and privacy is always assured.
This is a safe place.
No negative comments are allowed nor are they published. The purpose here is healing, support, and love.
People will question, deride and claim this site as a scare tactic.
Is truth a scare tactic?
What if truth is only what it is and nothing more?
What if the testimonies at “Survivors” are not real?
What if , instead of people who have really followed Kimkins, these were tales planted to scare people?
What if , instead of honesty, this was a sock puppet blog?
What if, instead of integrity, this was based on lies?
What if, instead of being what it is, it is what it isn’t?
The only portions written by the author here are unnamed and are original content.
The testimonies are believed to be real and are submitted by people who have stated that they have, in fact, followed Kimkins.
No testimony is repeated twice, edited, or changed by the author without persmission from submittants. and privacy is always assured.
This is a safe place.
No negative comments are allowed nor are they published. The purpose here is healing, support, and love.
People will question, deride and claim this site as a scare tactic.
Is truth a scare tactic?
What if truth is only what it is and nothing more?
VernsWifeVickie
I have posted a comment or two under a different name because I wasn’t ready to “go public” with my identity. But, now I’m ready. I have been a very vocal supporter and defender of the kimkins plan. With Becky, Christin, and Deni leaving it is impossible for me to continue along feeling that everything is ok. Here is a copy of my latest (probably last) post at kimkins…
Here is my post
I have been watching all of the controversy unfold for a while now. At first I was very vocal in my defense of Kimkins. I completely believed that the posters on ther fascination thread at LCF were just jealous and spiteful and had some sort of axe to grind with Kimmer. To some extent, I still believe that about many of them, although I now believe that some of them really are concerned over what they believe to be an unsafe plan. So, I have continued to watch and read and see how all of this has unfolded. I listened to the interview with Jimmy Moore and Kimmer’s answers were, in my opinion, rational and reasonable. I heard her say that she would turn teens away from the site in that interview and I was relieved that she was reasonable about it. So, when a 14 year old girl posted that she was eating 500 calories a day and was needing to increase her calories, I was SHOCKED to see kimmer advise her that she didn’t need to increase her calories. What happened to turning teens away from the site? This plan might be ok for those of us who are adults but for a child who is still growing there is no way that this diet is appropriate.
Then Becky resigned from the site. Now, no matter what I think about the motivation of the anti-KK gang out there, I know Becky’s intentions were good. I also KNOW that we were LIED to about the circumstances of Becky’s departure.
Now, Christin and Deni are leaving. I have watched both of these young women stand under the pressure of the anti-KK gang and not crumble. And, they have stood with very little, if any, support from this forum. Those women did not suddenly crumble from the pressure of the attacks on their character. If they were going to crumble they would have done it before now.
Having said all of that, I will say that I have nothing personal against Kimmer or the kimkins plan when it is done in a rational intelligent manner. But, when I see women posting that they are eating 300-500 calories a day and wondering why they are sick, having electrolyte imbalances, and their hair is falling out and they are not told to EAT…for goodness sakes! Then something is wrong. When a child is encouraged to eat 500 calories a day….something is wrong. When Becky left the site and we were lied to about her departure….something is wrong. And when it is infered that Christin and Deni crumbled under pressure…..something is wrong!
I don’t claim to have the answers for all of this and I will probably be banned for saying everything I’ve said in this post…..but I can no longer just go along trying to believe that everything is ok and that there are just a bunch of crazy people who are jealous and disgruntled attacking this plan.
There are some very serious questions and accusations flying around that should be addressed and put to rest if there is no basis for them. But, that hasn’t happened….something is very wrong.
From the kkatastrophediet blog “Wake Up Call” comments section
Here is my post
I have been watching all of the controversy unfold for a while now. At first I was very vocal in my defense of Kimkins. I completely believed that the posters on ther fascination thread at LCF were just jealous and spiteful and had some sort of axe to grind with Kimmer. To some extent, I still believe that about many of them, although I now believe that some of them really are concerned over what they believe to be an unsafe plan. So, I have continued to watch and read and see how all of this has unfolded. I listened to the interview with Jimmy Moore and Kimmer’s answers were, in my opinion, rational and reasonable. I heard her say that she would turn teens away from the site in that interview and I was relieved that she was reasonable about it. So, when a 14 year old girl posted that she was eating 500 calories a day and was needing to increase her calories, I was SHOCKED to see kimmer advise her that she didn’t need to increase her calories. What happened to turning teens away from the site? This plan might be ok for those of us who are adults but for a child who is still growing there is no way that this diet is appropriate.
Then Becky resigned from the site. Now, no matter what I think about the motivation of the anti-KK gang out there, I know Becky’s intentions were good. I also KNOW that we were LIED to about the circumstances of Becky’s departure.
Now, Christin and Deni are leaving. I have watched both of these young women stand under the pressure of the anti-KK gang and not crumble. And, they have stood with very little, if any, support from this forum. Those women did not suddenly crumble from the pressure of the attacks on their character. If they were going to crumble they would have done it before now.
Having said all of that, I will say that I have nothing personal against Kimmer or the kimkins plan when it is done in a rational intelligent manner. But, when I see women posting that they are eating 300-500 calories a day and wondering why they are sick, having electrolyte imbalances, and their hair is falling out and they are not told to EAT…for goodness sakes! Then something is wrong. When a child is encouraged to eat 500 calories a day….something is wrong. When Becky left the site and we were lied to about her departure….something is wrong. And when it is infered that Christin and Deni crumbled under pressure…..something is wrong!
I don’t claim to have the answers for all of this and I will probably be banned for saying everything I’ve said in this post…..but I can no longer just go along trying to believe that everything is ok and that there are just a bunch of crazy people who are jealous and disgruntled attacking this plan.
There are some very serious questions and accusations flying around that should be addressed and put to rest if there is no basis for them. But, that hasn’t happened….something is very wrong.
From the kkatastrophediet blog “Wake Up Call” comments section
Thank You, Jacqueline
Your words today have meant so much.
From science, from knowledge.
Not from surviving the ordeal, but just as important, if not moreso in some respects, for the scientifically minded.
Thank you.
Kimkins is Not Atkins
From science, from knowledge.
Not from surviving the ordeal, but just as important, if not moreso in some respects, for the scientifically minded.
Thank you.
Kimkins is Not Atkins
Dierdre
Former kimkins tryer/life destroyer here:
Look at my journal if you like. You can see that back last fall I was in great shape and weighed in healthy at 130-135 at 5′6. I gained weight due to stress over the holidays. I went on kimkins for a month, lost weight (mostly muslce). Went from 150 to 128. That weight was only a blip on my weight chart because right when I went back to eating ‘normal low carb’ I blew up to 155. No lie. I wasn’t eating more than 1500 cals a day. I tried exercising but I had to start back at square one. I use to run 6 miles no problem. But when I started back on the treadmill I had to walk and I couldn’t last more than 30 min.
My body was wrecked. My metabolism was wrecked. My skin, hair, self esteem, brain…all wrecked. It’s taking me forever to get back to my old self.
Kimkins is absolutely terrible. I’m sad that I’ve been away so long. i want to catch up on this whole scandal thing going on with it. I can’t seem to find the source of the info though. Like what happened, who started the outcry, what the heck is going on people!!! I’m a gossiper at heart.
Anyways, that’s my story. I haven’t weighed myself in a month. I’m eating atkins right now, trying to get myself under control.
from “New Anti-Kimkins/Kimmer blogs emerging“
Look at my journal if you like. You can see that back last fall I was in great shape and weighed in healthy at 130-135 at 5′6. I gained weight due to stress over the holidays. I went on kimkins for a month, lost weight (mostly muslce). Went from 150 to 128. That weight was only a blip on my weight chart because right when I went back to eating ‘normal low carb’ I blew up to 155. No lie. I wasn’t eating more than 1500 cals a day. I tried exercising but I had to start back at square one. I use to run 6 miles no problem. But when I started back on the treadmill I had to walk and I couldn’t last more than 30 min.
My body was wrecked. My metabolism was wrecked. My skin, hair, self esteem, brain…all wrecked. It’s taking me forever to get back to my old self.
Kimkins is absolutely terrible. I’m sad that I’ve been away so long. i want to catch up on this whole scandal thing going on with it. I can’t seem to find the source of the info though. Like what happened, who started the outcry, what the heck is going on people!!! I’m a gossiper at heart.
Anyways, that’s my story. I haven’t weighed myself in a month. I’m eating atkins right now, trying to get myself under control.
from “New Anti-Kimkins/Kimmer blogs emerging“
doitforthekids
I just found your forum, and just signed up less than two minutes ago. I am not extremely computer savvy, so bear with me. I am so very thankful for a support, hoping this does not get deleted and that it passes the eyes of anybody who may need it or be interested. I have never done anything like this, and have never told this to any of my family, my friends, husband or doctor. I started kimkins several months ago and lost a lot of weight very fast, very fast.
I am an honest lady and do not want to offend or appear indelicate, but am taking a deep breath here and being open and honest. I realize this may sound bizzare, I could not find anything on the boards at KK about it, I kept plowing through all the forums….but this is the absolute truth, and you can put me on a polygraph - as is the way I live my life, above reporach. However, shortly after starting I noticed my stools and urine were red, bright red. I first, erroneously, attributed it to something I drank with the diet beverages. Then I got cramping in my lower left side so severe that finally I could not walk. I mean, SEVERE and the pain was gripping, I walked to one side with holding my side to stay from falling over. Wobbly, to say the least - and we have stairs. I was scared, but embarrassed. As embarrassed as I am now telling how foolish I was, fueled to continue since I had had such rapid results. Spouse away, it ended up that I stayed in bed for a coupleof days, honest truth. I had some suspicions, but to validate my concerns, I got up and tried every reputable dx-and-symptom search-site that would match EXACTLY to every one, without exception, and repeatedly (esp the last, which was on a Mayo clinic site) and determined that without any doubt I had diverticulosis or deiverticulitis, completely new for me as NEVER encountered this. I had progressed to profusely vomiting, then read about the colon, and more, extensively. Couldn’t keep anything down, liquids went right up! Stopped eating and then went very gradual to sips, as tx-directed/suggested on the sites; and then after a couple of days I was keeping liquids without difficulty and got up and managed to get to the drugstore and got a strong laxative (bleeding had stopped, but my lower left side felt like a huge “wad” was “stuck”) in the form of Magnesium Citrate and some stool softener. Took it all, and …. afterwards, I had relief but was so weak I could barely walk around, energy drained.
THEN I went (I am so embarrassed, but hoping this helps somebody, and the truth is so good to finally tell) back on the same diet, but added to go to the “original” kimkins plan (I had been doing the K/E) and modified it somewhat, but still found it very extreme and felt a lot of guilt to go back and say how poorly I was actually doing, even though I was losing - but at a slower rate.
I think this is enough of baring myself; and if anybody has read this far, just again thank you for the opportunity to release this hidden thing that I have never shared. I always wondered if I was the only one, never could find anything about it - and there is NO DOUBT (I am also embarrassed to say that I am a mature adult, recognized community leader, college grad with a medical background - yes, honor student, no less!) what the problem was! I could only hope and pray no longterm damage was inflicted, and still wondered WHY I went back on the program (albeit modified) save for the desperation and for the lurking on a myriad of forums in attempt to learn more, and find answers; but then too I yield to realize the power of the peer pressure that I was finding with the comraderie on the forums, in addition to my remaining silent and thinking I was alone in this. So I fanlly just pulled away and did not even respond to personal notes asking where I was, I just wandered off….and whew, finally poked around the Net and….. found you here! BUT….still admittedly very wary (and weary!), oh do believe me.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Question???”
I am an honest lady and do not want to offend or appear indelicate, but am taking a deep breath here and being open and honest. I realize this may sound bizzare, I could not find anything on the boards at KK about it, I kept plowing through all the forums….but this is the absolute truth, and you can put me on a polygraph - as is the way I live my life, above reporach. However, shortly after starting I noticed my stools and urine were red, bright red. I first, erroneously, attributed it to something I drank with the diet beverages. Then I got cramping in my lower left side so severe that finally I could not walk. I mean, SEVERE and the pain was gripping, I walked to one side with holding my side to stay from falling over. Wobbly, to say the least - and we have stairs. I was scared, but embarrassed. As embarrassed as I am now telling how foolish I was, fueled to continue since I had had such rapid results. Spouse away, it ended up that I stayed in bed for a coupleof days, honest truth. I had some suspicions, but to validate my concerns, I got up and tried every reputable dx-and-symptom search-site that would match EXACTLY to every one, without exception, and repeatedly (esp the last, which was on a Mayo clinic site) and determined that without any doubt I had diverticulosis or deiverticulitis, completely new for me as NEVER encountered this. I had progressed to profusely vomiting, then read about the colon, and more, extensively. Couldn’t keep anything down, liquids went right up! Stopped eating and then went very gradual to sips, as tx-directed/suggested on the sites; and then after a couple of days I was keeping liquids without difficulty and got up and managed to get to the drugstore and got a strong laxative (bleeding had stopped, but my lower left side felt like a huge “wad” was “stuck”) in the form of Magnesium Citrate and some stool softener. Took it all, and …. afterwards, I had relief but was so weak I could barely walk around, energy drained.
THEN I went (I am so embarrassed, but hoping this helps somebody, and the truth is so good to finally tell) back on the same diet, but added to go to the “original” kimkins plan (I had been doing the K/E) and modified it somewhat, but still found it very extreme and felt a lot of guilt to go back and say how poorly I was actually doing, even though I was losing - but at a slower rate.
I think this is enough of baring myself; and if anybody has read this far, just again thank you for the opportunity to release this hidden thing that I have never shared. I always wondered if I was the only one, never could find anything about it - and there is NO DOUBT (I am also embarrassed to say that I am a mature adult, recognized community leader, college grad with a medical background - yes, honor student, no less!) what the problem was! I could only hope and pray no longterm damage was inflicted, and still wondered WHY I went back on the program (albeit modified) save for the desperation and for the lurking on a myriad of forums in attempt to learn more, and find answers; but then too I yield to realize the power of the peer pressure that I was finding with the comraderie on the forums, in addition to my remaining silent and thinking I was alone in this. So I fanlly just pulled away and did not even respond to personal notes asking where I was, I just wandered off….and whew, finally poked around the Net and….. found you here! BUT….still admittedly very wary (and weary!), oh do believe me.
from lowcarbdiscussion.com “Kimkins Question???”
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